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#222261 10/21/10 07:09 AM 10/21/10 07:09 AM |
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Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... | It's just that there are much better options for a games boat.
It would be a terrible shame to select a boat for the next 20 years of Olympic competition if it's not at the forefront of current thinking. Otherwise we will end up with yet another star class situation with an irrelevant boat and discipline, no media attraction or desire from youngsters to one day sail that boat. Here's where I disagree with you. It's not the boat that's wins the medals, IT'S THE PEOPLE!!!! Frankly I would love to see Coutts, Baird,etc race opti's against each other. Who here wouldn't want to see that. The truth is the Tornado was way ahead of it's time. Look at what it does with a modern sail plan. How many boats rate significantly faster in the 20 ft range? Maybe what's needed is a new bow on the T so that some of the people that are watching can feel better about it.
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#222265 10/21/10 07:22 AM 10/21/10 07:22 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Well here's the thing, is the Olympics supposed to be for the atheletes or for the spectators? And when it comes to Sailing...well...few -non sailor- spectators understand the rules, strategy or tactics, and being out on the water, of course it's expensive to add TV coverage. So, if the OC isn't going to spend the money to put on good TV coverage, who cares -what- boats they are racing?
Don't get me wrong, I care, and I cannot understand how the OC can allow a Laser AND a Fin, a 470 AND a 49'er, and an old design like a Star, yet NO MULTIHULL??!! WTF?? But if they aren't going to televise it anyway...what do I care which boats they are sailing, I (and 99% of you) am not going to ever race in the Olympics anyway.
It would be nice to see "State of the Art" boats in the Olympics, but I guess we will have to watch the C Class and America's Cup for that.
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#222273 10/21/10 07:39 AM 10/21/10 07:39 AM |
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Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... | Well here's the thing, is the Olympics supposed to be for the atheletes or for the spectators? And when it comes to Sailing...well...few -non sailor- spectators understand the rules, strategy or tactics, and being out on the water, of course it's expensive to add TV coverage. So, if the OC isn't going to spend the money to put on good TV coverage, who cares -what- boats they are racing?
I think it's about medal count. I think I remember reading that our T teams were getting old and there wasn't any new blood moving up. Wasn't this one if not the reason the US voted against the multi?
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#222278 10/21/10 08:31 AM 10/21/10 08:31 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Well here's the thing, is the Olympics supposed to be for the atheletes or for the spectators? And when it comes to Sailing...well...few -non sailor- spectators understand the rules, strategy or tactics, and being out on the water, of course it's expensive to add TV coverage. So, if the OC isn't going to spend the money to put on good TV coverage, who cares -what- boats they are racing?
I think it's about medal count. I think I remember reading that our T teams were getting old and there wasn't any new blood moving up. Wasn't this one if not the reason the US voted against the multi? It was one of the excuses but there really wasn't any merit to it.
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#222284 10/21/10 08:40 AM 10/21/10 08:40 AM |
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Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... | OK, but if we want to see guys like Coutts and Baird racing shitty boats against each other we just have to watch the star, Finn, laser etc.
If the boat makes no difference then why not put everyone in lasers and let them go for it!
How the
I think it would be entertaining. If Nacra built this boat to be accepted as the next Olympic cat then I think you should state that. Perhaps you have, but I think that may have an effect on some peoples decision to buy this boat good or bad. And as a Rep. for Nacra you should temper your attitude towards other boats. Especially one that taught thousands to sail and probably exists in greater numbers than than all cats put together.
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#222289 10/21/10 09:05 AM 10/21/10 09:05 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | OK, but if we want to see guys like Coutts and Baird racing shitty boats against each other we just have to watch the star, Finn, laser etc.
If the boat makes no difference then why not put everyone in lasers and let them go for it!
How the
I think it would be entertaining. If Nacra built this boat to be accepted as the next Olympic cat then I think you should state that. Perhaps you have, but I think that may have an effect on some peoples decision to buy this boat good or bad. And as a Rep. for Nacra you should temper your attitude towards other boats. Especially one that taught thousands to sail and probably exists in greater numbers than than all cats put together. I still don't understand why having an amateur campaign on a popular, also Olympic boat, is such a bad idea. If it's that bad, why are there so many damn lasers everywhere?
Jake Kohl | | | Re: Multihulls and the Olympics
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#222290 10/21/10 09:11 AM 10/21/10 09:11 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | "I still don't understand why having an amateur campaign on a popular, also Olympic boat, is such a bad idea."
+1
I like the potential of thousands of amateurs trying to work their way through the trials process to the "big dance". An expensive, highly specialized boat like the Tornado insures that only a very few will even try.
I'd be thrilled if the F16 was chosen.
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#222291 10/21/10 09:24 AM 10/21/10 09:24 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | "I still don't understand why having an amateur campaign on a popular, also Olympic boat, is such a bad idea."
+1
I like the potential of thousands of amateurs trying to work their way through the trials process to the "big dance". An expensive, highly specialized boat like the Tornado insures that only a very few will even try.
I'd be thrilled if the F16 was chosen. Well...that's not quite what I meant. If the Olympic multihull was a boat I was sailing, I wouldn't have any delusions or plans about qualifying for the Olympics but I wouldn't feel slighted in any way if I raced the likes of Johnny and Charlie on a weekend from time to time.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: Multihulls and the Olympics
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#222292 10/21/10 09:29 AM 10/21/10 09:29 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | What's delusional about it? Lot's of people run marathons with no thought of qualifying for the Olympics.
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