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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | Like I said these are not the best pics , but I hope they help anyway.
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#22351 07/24/03 08:38 AM 07/24/03 08:38 AM |
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Posts: 7 | The jib halyard will come off the forestay- thats why there is no thimble on the bottom swage. Try this link for the jib set up, its an earlier model but gives you the idea. Jim http://www.ahpc.com.au/rigjib.html | | | Re: Unpacking and rigging new Taipan 4.9--I need help
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#22352 07/24/03 08:48 PM 07/24/03 08:48 PM |
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1,037 Central California ejpoulsen OP
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Posts: 1,037 Central California | Thanks for all the tips and advice.
Sailed it about 5 hours today in 0-20, sloop and cat. Everything seems to be working well. Next step is to rig the spinnaker. I'll post photos when I get some.
Hull design and volume distribution is quite different from my Nacra 5.0. The nacra sails well with the bows deep, and there's not much rocker. The Taipan has a lot of rocker aft of the front crossbeam, and the bows seem to like to ride fairly high. Any tips on weight distribution and hull trim?
Eric Poulsen A-class USA 203 Ultimate 20 Central California
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#22353 07/25/03 12:40 AM 07/25/03 12:40 AM |
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Posts: 58 Canberra, Australia | Re weight distribution: In light weather move as far forward as you can, mainly to get the stern out or up as it were - The bows should definately be in the water. In super light stuff I skipper on the windward hull sitting in the spot between the sidestay and the front beam leaning forward with the crew on the leeward hull in about the same spot. As wind increases both are on the windward side sitting on the hull, crew up next to the beam and skipper close behind pretty much either side of the sidestay. More wind, one on wire either skipper on side against sidestay and crew out with front foot on the front beam (ish) or crew in and skipper out at with front foot about sidestay. Just depends on which of you are heavier and what the breeze is doing. My crew is lighter than me so if there is enough wind to have one out some of the time then I get her to trapeze in the puffs whereas if the puffs are a bit stronger and you sometimes need two I'll be out. More wind, just twin trapping - move back a little bit depending on what the water state is like. More wind, comfortably twin trapping - I'm trapezing a little further back about in line with the middle of the centreboard and the crew either side of the sidestay. Some people trapeze a little further forward but it all depends on what seems to work for your sails and how heavy you are and where your weight is distributed between crew and skipper. Sea state comes into play as well when the wind gets up so if you find that you are ploughing into waves too much or getting wiped off the side move back even further. I've sailed upwind on one or two occasions with my back foot near the back beam but that's pretty crazy stuff! As for sailing solo, can't really say with any great confidence but I can remember trapezing further forward when going upwind and further back off the wind. Oh, and being totally out of control (but that's another story) Where the rocker is determines where your weight is distributed and the hull shape changes most around the centreboard case or just in front so downwind its the same as upwind:- in light stuff stay right forward leaning over the front beam and gradually move back as the wind increases. Hope this helps!
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#22355 07/30/03 12:09 AM 07/30/03 12:09 AM |
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Posts: 1,037 Central California | Wouter--
I have been reading all the replies, and I certainly appreciate all the input. With regard to the center tramp grommet, however, I've gotten no less than three different explanations. That's why I reposed the question. According to Greg, it is for a mainsheet retrieval system.
Eric
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#22356 07/30/03 03:32 AM 07/30/03 03:32 AM |
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | >>>According to Greg, it is for a mainsheet retrieval system
Say Eric what is a mainsheet retrieval system ?
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#22359 07/30/03 08:40 PM 07/30/03 08:40 PM |
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Posts: 1,037 Central California | Yes, as Jennifer described. Does anyone have a photo they could post of it?
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#22360 07/31/03 03:00 PM 07/31/03 03:00 PM |
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Posts: 74 Reno, NV | Hey Eric,
Are we going to see your new boat at Rio Vista next month? With the Tigers, A-Cats and now a Taipan in the area, I'm feeling like an old fogey on my Nacra 5.8
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Posts: 1,037 Central California | Pete,
Hopefully I can make it to Rio Vista. I've heard the Delta can really blow. I need to put in some water time to figure out how to make the Taipan really go--maybe then I can finish on the same lap as you and Travis...With your jumbo main, your N5.8 is still a mean machine.
Eric Poulsen A-class USA 203 Ultimate 20 Central California
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#22363 07/31/03 05:40 PM 07/31/03 05:40 PM |
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Posts: 1,037 Central California | If there's a good breeze (like at Black Butte), I think I'd sail cat even if I can get crew. Plenty of power.
It kills me when the Sea Sprays beat me!!! Those pesky little guys with there fancy new mylar sails have been tough to beat with my nacra. (Okay, prolly lots of skill on there part.)
I also got a spin/snuffer system but I'm not ready to bring it on the race course yet.
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#22365 08/23/03 02:56 PM 08/23/03 02:56 PM |
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 29 Netherlands Marc Woudenberg
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Posts: 29 Netherlands | Eric, since I have been assembling my T4.9 last week, I can assure you that the grommet centrally in the tramp is for a retrieval system. Not the main sheet, but the spi. If you have a snuffer you must pull the retrieval line to get the spi back in the the long sack. The retrieval line is connected to the patches on the spi, goes through the chute ring into the bag, through the grommet on the top of the bag backside and then up through the central grommet back to the front beam, where it passes through the Spinlock cleat. That's the way Greg described it. If required I can mail you a sketch on this one.
Marc Woudenberg T49/F16 Ned302
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#22366 08/23/03 05:37 PM 08/23/03 05:37 PM |
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Posts: 1,037 Central California | Congratulations on your new boat, Marc.
Hmm. I do have the snuffer with a long bag. I have it rigged with the retrieval line crossing the tramp from back to front from the block (at the rear beam) to the spinlock cleat, which I had Greg put on the front beam. The system has been working fine. Next time I set up I'll try it as you suggest. A diagram would be helpful. How exactly do you fasten the retrieval line to the ball after passing it through the patches?
Greg sent me a bungee and plastic ring to use the grommet for a mainsheet retrieval system also, which I'm going to try.
Does the snuffer bag seem unecessarily long to you? I may shorten mine.
Enjoy your new boat!
Eric Poulsen A-class USA 203 Ultimate 20 Central California
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