[quote]What would the world look like if the Hobie Wave is selected for the Olympics AND we get men's and women's single handed cats?
Gender equity... check. Individual athlete focus.... check Multihull Check Affordable, Popular, Low entry barrier for non sailing nations. Check. instantly recognizable by the world... Check... More people have probably sailed a wave at a resort over the past 5 years then have sailed a performance cat... Hobie 16 on up.
What ....and risk our class being ruined?
Jack Woehrle Hobie Wave #100, Tiger Shark III HCA-NA 5022-1 USSailing 654799E Alachua FL/Put-In-Bay
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Re: ISAF Excludes Men's KEELBOAT for 2016
[Re: Mugrace72]
#224370 11/18/1011:32 AM11/18/1011:32 AM
Your class has no class now. I guess you did not here what Reggie was wearing a couple weeks ago. I hope the A class can straighten him out.
Yeah...I know Dave. I would love to do the A-Cat thing (without Spandex) but I am so hard on boats, I'm sure I would destroy one in short order, or worse, someone elses.
I guess I will just have to battle Rick for the Olympic berth.
Jack Woehrle Hobie Wave #100, Tiger Shark III HCA-NA 5022-1 USSailing 654799E Alachua FL/Put-In-Bay
The more I think about this, the more the keelboat thing concerns me. I'm not worried that they'll be stupid enough to kill cats, but something has to go. There's just no way in the world that they'll be able to sell the IOC on building facilities for women's keelboats and not have a men's keelboat. And, as I mentioned before, and as was just verified, the keelboat guys (ISAF) will use the Paralympics as a tactic all the way to the bank.
What amazes me is that no one seems to be calling BS on the Finns. If you're too heavy to sail a Laser, nothing is stopping you from sailing any of the crewed boats, so there is no great "conspiracy" to keep heavy people out of sailing. What am I missing here (other than the obvious hidden agendas)???
In reply to guys like Henderson; I'm in full support for the following line-up of 10 Olympic events
Mens and Womens doublehander - F18's and F16's Mens and Womens singlehander - A-class Mens and Womens singlehander Heavy skippers - F16's Mens and womens Match racing - Extreme 40's (use the same facilities as the paralimpics) Mens and Womens (figleaf) monohull - laser dinghy. (But could be replaced in backroom deals by kite-surfers or foiling moth)
I guess we fully see eye-to-eye in that respect.
With kind regards,
Wouter
Last edited by Wouter; 11/19/1006:57 AM.
Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
Re: ISAF Excludes Men's KEELBOAT for 2016
[Re: Wouter]
#224404 11/19/1006:43 AM11/19/1006:43 AM
I love how no one has ever thought, or at least spoken allowed, about putting in Kite surfing and windsurfing freestyle competition.
Skiing and Snowboarding have done it (snowboard cross, half pipe, skicross), I think it is time sailing gets with it and puts similar stuff in (kites could have big air, speed runs, or different style of racing, boards could have slalom like races, trick stuff, whatever they currently have).
Come on, lets make this fun. Heck, lets have slalom style cat racing, just pure speed with basic reaching like legs and lots of marks. I can imagine a race course that is a bunch of "slightly higher then a reach" upwind legs, then one kick butt downwind run, one loop, winner takes all.
Lets have some imagination....
Originally Posted by Wouter
In reply to guys like Henderson; I'm in full support for the following line-up of 10 Olympic events
Mens and Womens doublehander - F18's and F16's Mens and Womens singlehander - A-class Mens and Womens singlehander Heavy skippers - F16's Mens and womens Match racing - Extreme 40's (use the same facilities as the paralimpics) Mens and Womens (figleaf) monohull - laser dinghy. (But could be replaced in backroom deals by kite-surfers or foiling moth)
I guess we fully see eye-to-eye in that respect.
With kind regards,
Wouter
Re: ISAF Excludes Men's KEELBOAT for 2016
[Re: maritimesailor]
#224422 11/19/1011:47 AM11/19/1011:47 AM
The spring loaded wand at the bow works like a sensor, when it reaches a certain speed it extends and changes the pitch of the horizontal foil at the end of the centerboard thereby lifting the whole thing out of the water.
IMHO the IOC will never allow the Moth as it is today though, to much development going on (like wings!):
That "thing" is a feeler which adjusts the picth of the foil so the boat doesn't jump up out of the water.
OK, here's what we need to "develop", a flying Catamaran! All we need to do is figure out how to scale up the wings these guys made for their windsurfers and put them up on half a mast, and bingo, it's "up up and Away!"
Hey.... no poaching by kibitzers... Timbo was invited to come to Gainesville to sail one of these that actually works (<--- see my avatar thumbnail). Ain't seed Hide nor Hair of the Ol' Boy.
Dacarls: A-class USA 196, USA 21, H18, H16 "Nothing that's any good works by itself. You got to make the damn thing work"- Thomas Edison
Re: ISAF Excludes Men's KEELBOAT for 2016
[Re: dacarls]
#224461 11/20/1006:07 AM11/20/1006:07 AM
I'll get up there one of these days Dave! Just before Christmas I have to drive up I 75 to Auburn to pick up the kids...and 3 horses...so if I have some time and the weather's good, I could drop in on my way up. If not that trip, then maybe two weeks after Xmas when I return them.
Blade F16 #777
Re: ISAF Excludes Men's KEELBOAT for 2016
[Re: Timbo]
#224481 11/21/1012:43 AM11/21/1012:43 AM