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#229308 03/03/11 05:53 PM 03/03/11 05:53 PM |
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 142 3 weeks Newman WA 1 week Robe ... Brian P
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Posts: 142 3 weeks Newman WA 1 week Robe ... | has anyone ever lost one from the mounting velcro? do you use a recovery lanyard of some sort? i intend to mount mine on the kite pole, but worried about a kite sheet or jib sheet wrapping around it aqnd sending it into the big blue.
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#229317 03/04/11 06:33 AM 03/04/11 06:33 AM |
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Posts: 2,584 +31NL | When I have some time I want to do a gps overlay on some gopro sailing footage, so you can actually know how fast you go when you do what. I looked at the iphone as well for a sailing instrument and actually think its ideal, it has a gps, camera, data connection and a lot of other sensors like a gyro. Maybe also thinking about putting this into some sort of dashboard with a video overlay. If you have an iphone 3gs or 4 this free app registers everything the sensors do: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/xsensor/id345145166?mt=8 A speedometer like the speedpuck looks interesting but speed alone would not give enough information without having something to compare it with (like maybe your speed on this side of the course on the previous lap or something). | | | Re: speed puck
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#229319 03/04/11 06:58 AM 03/04/11 06:58 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | My biggest concern is sailing the best course to weather, speed seems to me the major component.
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#229322 03/04/11 07:30 AM 03/04/11 07:30 AM |
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Posts: 2,584 +31NL | My biggest concern is sailing the best course to weather, speed seems to me the major component. IMHO the best way to improve your upwind performance is to practice with another boat most similar to yours side by side and see who is quickest, make some changes if you are slower, and try again. The gps will show your speed but you wont know if the number shown is "good" because of changing conditions like wind, current, waves etc. It could be useful to download the data to a PC though, you can see your tacking angles and tack-to-tack speed. | | | Re: speed puck
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#229323 03/04/11 07:57 AM 03/04/11 07:57 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | Practicing with another boat is impractical, there are none nearby.
And I'm unable to upload data from my last outing with my 301, which brings me back to the original question.
I'm trying to contact Garmin which is not nearly as easy as it should be imo.
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#229327 03/04/11 09:10 AM 03/04/11 09:10 AM |
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Posts: 329 Chicago, Illinois USA | My .02 is that if you want to study after the race, the Garmin is fine. If you want feedback during the race and to study after, then speedpuck is a good option. I haven't used anything else, but it's easy to see, gives you speed and shows the shifts.
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#229328 03/04/11 09:14 AM 03/04/11 09:14 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | My biggest complaint with the Garmin is that it doesn't work and tech support is... tedious?
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#229332 03/04/11 10:12 AM 03/04/11 10:12 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | It won't upload to my pc. At first it simply showed that little "busy circle" saying it was uploading, but never finished. Now my pc is not detecting the device at all.
My first outing with it was fine. I uploaded problem free and was able to review the data and actually locate some problems with my sailing, but nothing since.
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#229333 03/04/11 10:17 AM 03/04/11 10:17 AM |
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Posts: 976 France | has anyone ever lost one from the mounting velcro? do you use a recovery lanyard of some sort? [...] There is velcro and velcro. The positive lock on that velcro is incredible and I've never had any device move once stuck in place. I use a lanyard on all the devices if there is a spot to attach one anyway, aka on all but the prostart. The prostart has its own support that can be screwed in and the devices clips in it. It's fairly solid but a line can get wrapped around the release... | | | Re: speed puck
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#229334 03/04/11 10:47 AM 03/04/11 10:47 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | pete, you may benefit more on your upwind practice with VMG rather than outright speed. I've heard people set imaginary waypoints on the GPS and sail upwind for a while noting their VMG when they change things (direction, settings, etc)
I'd bet someone's got something that will show TWD, Apparant, TWS, SOG, etc. that will fit on a dingy/beachcat...
Jay
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#229339 03/04/11 11:57 AM 03/04/11 11:57 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California John Williams
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | Puk it - the simplicity of the puk is what makes it so useful. Use speed or heading on the display combined with the header/lift graphic; one quick glance is all it takes and trends are very evident. The download is gravy for the debrief. The fun is everyone displaying max speed at the end of the day and dropping it on the tramp to see who pissed biggest. I love my Puk.
John Williams
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Posts: 5,525 | http://www.velocitek.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=404For me, reliability is the key. I don't have much patience for balky equipment.
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#229341 03/04/11 12:10 PM 03/04/11 12:10 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California John Williams
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | I have two - they've both downloaded fine, although I only use one of them with any regularity. The vast majority of reviews on Velocitek devices is overwhelmingly positive.
John Williams
- The harder you practice, the luckier you get - Gary Player, pro golfer
After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
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#229350 03/04/11 04:32 PM 03/04/11 04:32 PM |
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Posts: 329 Chicago, Illinois USA | The velcro is very tough on the speed puck, but I have found it has worn over the years and is not as strong now. I always tie the lanyard to the spin pole. I did have it come loose once in a crash and was glad I did.
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