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#231500 04/25/11 05:31 PM 04/25/11 05:31 PM |
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Posts: 129 Austin, TX | I have a lot of practice capsizing  1) make sure all sheets are eased. 2) before righting get you and the crew on the front of the lower hull to rotate the boat into the wind (at least 45 deg off the wind). But the best thing is if either you or the crew can sit on the lower hull forward of the front beam as the boat is righting. Then stay on top and just jump on the tramp and steer into the wind. If you are both in the water and the breeze is on, I hope you are in good shape.
Bo Kersey Corsair 31-1D 276 | | | Re: capsize recovery
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#231589 04/27/11 01:58 PM 04/27/11 01:58 PM |
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Posts: 291 | We have had the same experience with our Infusion. Once it comes up it want to sail off despite best efforts to right into the wind. cracking the mainsheet off might be a solution that we have not tried yet, at least not to an extreme. We usually crack it off a few feet in the block to block distance. As Bo spoke of earlier we have found that having the crew sit on the bottom hull as it comes up puts him on the deck as the boat is righted. He then steers into the wind I come onboard between the tiller tie bar and the rear cross bar. It seams to be working pretty good but he does have to move mast to get to the tiller.
Collin Casey Infusion Platform + C2 rig and rags = one fast cookie
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#231638 04/28/11 01:09 PM 04/28/11 01:09 PM |
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Posts: 129 Austin, TX | The trick of standing next to the crossbeam and moving to the top of the boat as it comes up works great. But, I don't see why the crew should be the one that gets to do that...
The crew gets to do that because he is typically lighter than us old fat skippers. Someone needs the weight to bring the boat the rest of the way up...
Bo Kersey Corsair 31-1D 276 | | | Re: capsize recovery
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#231799 05/02/11 08:57 PM 05/02/11 08:57 PM |
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Posts: 606 League City, TX | we flipped our infusion for the first time today .she came up incridibly quickly but didn't turn head to wind and proceeded to take off with me holding the dolphin striker unable to get on and crew swimming after it . How do I ensure it turns head to wind and stops ? I have some experience in this situation - we were practicing one day in rather a lot of wind and when we righted our Tiger after a flip, the rudder arm was on the wrong side of the footstrap - making the boat bear off. The boat took off with us both holding on to the dolphin striker and body surfing. I let go to make a grab for a rudder arm to head her up - but the rotator line under the tramp was slack and caught me - leading to me missing the rudder arm. My crew body surfed under the boat about 1/3 of the way across the lake before the boat rounded up and he could climb on board. We now put a lot of focus into getting the crew onto the hull as the boat is righted. They then stabilize the boat while the skipper climbs on. Disconnecting the jib is overkill - I've never done this (even when righting in 20+ knots). | | | Re: capsize recovery
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#231831 05/03/11 02:39 PM 05/03/11 02:39 PM |
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Posts: 49 Israel, Sdot Yam | We carry a small fabric drogue in our tramp pocket and deploy it when the capsize is problematic - first and foremost if one sailor doesn't manage to reach the boat, but also if we don't manage to turn her head to wind by sitting on the bow, or when to close to rocks. We have a long 6mm line attached to the capsize line, and initial deployment stops drift. We then tie the drogue to the bridle, and from that moment she lies quietly head to wind, almost no drift and plenty of time to prepare, overturn, climb aboard and even rest before reeling the drogue in and sailing on. For our new boat we are considering sewing a dedicated drogue pocket on the bottom side of the trampoline. I like the idea of a strap there to reach the rudders, we're adding that as well.
Opher Nacra F20C ISR1 F18 Cirrus ISR2 Sdot Yam, ISRAEL
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#231832 05/03/11 02:44 PM 05/03/11 02:44 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | That is a very good idea!
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#231851 05/03/11 09:25 PM 05/03/11 09:25 PM |
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Posts: 1,911 South Florida & the Keys | I saw some where, some time, that if you keep the main sheet tight and stand on the traveler, it will pop up and you can slip onto the tramp as the boat comes over....????
Eric Arbogast ARC 2101 Miami Yacht Club | | | Re: capsize recovery
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#231923 05/04/11 05:06 PM 05/04/11 05:06 PM |
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Posts: 49 Israel, Sdot Yam | Ours is about 2 feet diameter of the mouth. It has a flexible metal rim that folds up together with the fabric so it stuffs conveniently in the tramp pocket. It really slows the boat down, so smaller would probably be just as effective
Opher Nacra F20C ISR1 F18 Cirrus ISR2 Sdot Yam, ISRAEL
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#232354 05/13/11 11:07 AM 05/13/11 11:07 AM |
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Posts: 1,203 uk | Whats the dayglow velcro pocket on the underside of the Wildcat tramp for?
No good for the righting line
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