| ISAF gets to screw it up this week. #231843 05/03/11 04:51 PM 05/03/11 04:51 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider OP
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | Well It's fish or cut bait time.. ISAF is meeting and the multihull Olympic future is up in the air. If you want to catch up... read Sailworld 's Richard Gladwell I love this line... By ditching Multihull Event, when the poorly organised and politically naive Tornado class was caught napping in November 2007, the ISAF reinforced its stereotyped thinking to its sailing constituency. 65 petitions are to be voted on.... all of which could edge out the mixed multihull (god forsaken POS that it is IMO) Do any of the USA Classes have their international reps going? Who is going so that the same can not be said of this generation!
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | Every single submission includes at least one multihull event. Frost the mugs, chill the bubbly.
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Posts: 606 Maryland | So I guess the "Events Committee" is the one to watch even though the "ISAF Council" has final say? Good to see that there is catamaran representation on the Events Committee. At least we have a voice at the table.
I agree with John that they will be hard pressed not to include a multihull event. A lot of support and good reasoning submitted as to how multihulls meet many of the goals desired for an Olympic sailing event for the PUBLIC.
It is too bad about the 2012 Games but that is spilled milk under the table now and we can only learn from it.
The Evaluation Trials will be interesting but I'm putting the cart before the horse.
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | It would be evermore a travesty Especially now that the penultimate professional sailing event has gone to multihulls
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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | Please stop using obscure multi-syllabic words. My tenth grade edumication can't keep up.
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | Malcom Gladwell writes today Second, drop the Mixed Events. They are an artificial creation for politically correct reasons.
The notion that Mixed Events are more media friendly is a load of codswallop. Instead opt for Open Events and close classes that can be sailed by men and women, or all female, or all male crews. Enforce gender equality (in terms of physical strength and weight) by choosing classes – when that time comes that are equal in the hands of an all male crew, and all female crew or a male and female crew. Hmm.... (please lord... remove the mixed doubles curse from our vocabulary) (Sorry Karl.... vocabulary.... probably OK... I don't know what codswallop is either) BUT... Can you say F16 Viper! OOPS.... can you say TORNADO!!!! Sailworld Interview with Gabler.... not the one you know!
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Posts: 606 Maryland | Did some research. The 2007 debacle consisted with the ISAF Council ignoring the Events Committee's recommendation relative to multihulls. So much for my earlier question.
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Posts: 3,969 | I think you mean the ultimate sailing event has gone multihull.
penultimate means next to last. No, he got it right. The Hobie 16 Worlds is the ultimate sailing competition. Mike | | | Re: ISAF gets to screw it up this week.
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Posts: 606 Maryland | Wow! No keelboat. Guess they are considering cost as a primary constraint.
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Events committee's recommendation to the ISAF council is: Board/Kiteboard men & women (evaluation). One person dinghy men Laser men, women Laser radial. 2nd one person dinghy men Finn. Two person dinghy men & women 470. Skiff men 49er. Skiff women (evaluation). Mixed two person multihull (evaluation). Why are there TWO "One Person Dinghy" classes, Laser AND Finn? and again, why are there two "Two person Dinghy classes", 470 AND 49'r??
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Get rid of the Finn and/or the 470, add a Catamaran. Come on, this shouldn't be that hard to figure out.
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | this is a pretty wild thing how these decisions are reached. Don't get me wrong - I'm elated that the multihull is back on the table but a forced mixed (male/female) is not representative of our sport...I guess you could look at it as a chicken/egg scenario that if the Olympics are mixed, it will create more mixed teams?
Keeping two single handed dingies and killing both keel boats doesn't make sense either. There should be some easy logic to all of this to define the classes and then pick the configurations that match the sport as it exists.
Do the Olympics dictate that events be male/female/mixed with no opportunity for "open"?
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