Stank,

Mine might be available soon if you want to jump back in the class.

You did miss my point. I was illustrating the fact that those preaching "SMOD because everyone's on the same rig" were not all on the same rig when it came down to your boat. I WANT developement. PC isn't the way to go with it. Different sailmakers is. BTW, I'll likely be getting an alluminum rig for mine since it's a more evolved sail plan and mast.
Maybe I'm missing your point. I wish we could all talk more in person about this because I think some people miss the meaning of what others are saying because they're reading it instead of hearing it.

i think there is like 5 or 6 alum masts in the states. if your looking for one i know KeySailing in pensacola has a alumm rig with sailes new in the box

Hmmm I'm wondering how the Nacra Carbon 20 SMOD is going to work out.....

Any idea of the price?
PM me if you're not comfortable posting it.

I just got wood! I would like to know a price, I am interested but I need to give Todd some $$ for the blue sail first. Should be coming next week Todd.

No worries Bruddah.

A nice ride, that one is. I'm still not getting lighter, and there may be a few hands down in my neighborhood to help pull strings, so I may be one step closer to re-entering the sailing arena.

Although string beyatch does have it's merits: Low cost of entry (just gear), ability to experience wide variety of boats and setups (sometimes in the same dang regatta ), great learning curve

but you do have a few drawbacks: need earplugs and thick skin (for obscenities lobbed by driver), must be available at moment's notice (Tad's PM 6 hours before an event when I'm 5 hours away ), job uncertainty (especially if you're less than a top tier sailor), and getting that stupid blender to work while you're trimming the spinnaker from the wire.

Well, I was talking about selling mine due to that "job uncertainty" thing.

Solution: convince the skipper that shaken, not blended yields an equal product and allows you to concentrate on the spin, not the blend.... OR be a real pirate and simply drink rum (straight)

So without reading X-amount of pages of post & rebuttals what is the overall view of the class as it seems a majority of the owners of these boats are posting here:

A.) Open up the sail manufacturing to a few other "regional" sail makers that are knowledgeable of beach-cats and support the community.

B.) Let Performance keep the rules as is and continue to furnish us with over priced wardrobes as they are a sole source.

C.) Shelve this discussion until next year or the next time someone wins a race with out using "class legal" sails - sans Jauna's Good Time Regatta?

What say ye?

I have a question; reading and listening to all the previous postings, along my own dealings with Performance, why would we care what they think? I mean if they aren't supporting us in parts, and new boats for the class. I maybe wrong, but kind of seems to be a one way road. Is this not about keeping the class alive, even though their intent is not to help? Just my 2 cents
Thanks

Forrest

Now, you know as well as I do that skippers can't take their rum straight. They have to have it all fru-fru blended, with fruit on a skewer and a little pink umbrella in it.

They claim they're not savages like the knuckle-dragging neandertals they call crew

We don't care what they think. Some people are hesistant to abandon the 'SMOD' of the N20. It is the only governing document at the moment. That needs to change. Its time for a NA F20 class to become viable. There are some very interesting documents on catsailor dating way back (2003) that outlined how to do this and I think its finally time for the masses to accept it. sail6000(Carl Roberts) wrote a great document here: http://www.catsailor.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=26593
He needs to get full credit for it. It is a little dated but in essence its spot on.
Its time to move on folks.

If folks are feeling this way, then what is needed to do it and make the change. It appears that most aren't happy now. I mean, I'll never be in the same ball park as you guys, but if as long as these top notch guys are around to learn from, then lets do what it takes to keep them and bring more in.

your stuff's fast enough Forrest. You can make that sail as flat as a pancake. Don't know about the spin since we didn't fly it but I suspect you'd lose more ground blowing a tack/gybe or hoist/takedown on a short (bouy) course...

Technique and experience will get you 90% to the top of the heap. Technology could get you that last 10%...

Thanks Jay, but I suspect after looking at the other guys, my fat ole butt would do best to loose about 80 lbs to be faster also.
I do have a question, since I pulled the strings last time, and pushed us off the sand bar, are you at the very least bringing the blender this time. I mean since I insulted the guys with the lunch pail from the boom,lets at the very least have something cold to drink.

Thanks

Forrest

My suggestion is go to www.WaveClass.com and use the constitution as a model. Set the perameters and measuring for the sail, elect officers and go from there.
If some don't join, so be it. Those that do can revive the class and make it thrivingly fun boat again,
Rick

+1

Rick,

You should also point out that as the WAVE Class, you pull together a regatta schedule, you define the race class as the IWCA Waves, You publish it so that anyone can find your class and your events and your Wave sailors show up and go racing.

Getting the paperwork sorted out was just half the battle! Great job in getting it all done... year after year!

Final point, any NAHCA Wave class member is fully compliant in your IWCA class regatta.... just as any Performance N20 would fit into a new Formula N20 rule (or whatever).

Like you, I hope that they can revive the class and fill that niche in our sailing scene.