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North Carolina Challenge #237088
09/01/11 06:55 PM
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Looks like we've got a real race going:

http://watertribe.com/Events/ShowRosters.aspx

Will the F20c stay together long enough to obliterate my turbocharged TheMightyHobie18 (F18 spin, pentex jib)? Will we pass race inspection (aka, how much sh$t can we leave off in an effort to save weight)? Will we make it from the high tide line to the water with my 440lb+gear 1980 TheMightyHobie18, without using wheels? Will Krantz scratch his precious F20c hulls to make it to the water? Is the F20c going to make it through the barely 13' wide canal?

Will we both get destroyed by the experienced monohull sailors (including the Stewarts)? Can we get done with the race before nightfall and screw the camping?

Will post pics of the boats and updates to this thread!


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Re: North Carolina Challenge [Re: samc99us] #237095
09/01/11 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by samc99us
TheMightyHobie18 (F18 spin, pentex jib)?


My money is on the Hobie!!!


Jack Woehrle
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Re: North Carolina Challenge [Re: Mugrace72] #237111
09/02/11 12:33 PM
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Wow! 22 class 5 entries. We have a race!

As far as scratching our boat, you must not know why they call me krash...

AND we've got Mr WWDLD on board.

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Re: North Carolina Challenge [Re: mikekrantz] #237130
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I think your slogan should be [spoken with an Irish, or pirate, accent] : "'tis nothin'but a scratch!"


Jake Kohl
Re: North Carolina Challenge [Re: mikekrantz] #237135
09/03/11 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mikekrantz
Wow! 22 class 5 entries. We have a race!

As far as scratching our boat, you must not know why they call me krash...




I hope old Mike is not coming back !! Repairing boats is no fun. I like new Mike a lot better we can spend more time sailing.

Re: North Carolina Challenge [Re: Dlennard] #237137
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What are the odds on you guys finishing with 2 undamaged dagger/C boards? Oyster bars ,right?



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Re: North Carolina Challenge [Re: Dlennard] #237151
09/03/11 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dlennard
Originally Posted by mikekrantz
Wow! 22 class 5 entries. We have a race!

As far as scratching our boat, you must not know why they call me krash...




I hope old Mike is not coming back !! Repairing boats is no fun. I like new Mike a lot better we can spend more time sailing.


Old Mike makes long days for ground crew!!! Can't wait to see how you guys do!


David Strickland
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Re: North Carolina Challenge [Re: samc99us] #238486
10/01/11 09:50 AM
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JP (HoldyourCourse) just finished his 100 mile race. I think he was 7th finish, and the third sailboat, can't tell if any other cats finished ahead of JP. I've not figured out how may cats are competing. Word has it that was the JP appeared to be first to the canal, but then got past by Kayaks. Then got stuck at the beaufort bridge when it wouldn't open for him and he had to go ashore... and drop his mast to get under the bridge. I will know more about it once JP verbally checks in with me, and we will deffinately get more details at the Nationals next weekend at Lake Waccamaw - what a way to treat a boat the week before the Nationals.

Results
http://www.watertribe.com/Events/ChallengeResults.aspx?RaceID=NCC2011

Course
http://www.watertribe.com/Events/ChallengeMapper.aspx?RaceID=NCC2011

-Joleen, Isotope Fleet Captain

Re: North Carolina Challenge [Re: Joleen] #238508
10/02/11 02:43 PM
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Quick write up, I am beat:

1) Passed most boats on the way to the Neuse from Cedar Island except the Isotope (he is quick upwind)
2) Slowed down in the Neuse, wind went light and current wasn't favorable. Breeze built later and we really picked up speed (double wired upwind) but angles were pretty terrible.
3) Saw JP take the mast down on his Isotope and start rowing. We pulled over and dropped the mainsail, expecting not to get through the tree. Then we started paddling (kayak paddles), which was brutal. Tried reefing the main to help get upwind, ripped the reef point. Dropped the main, started paddling again, ended up using the paddles as poles and pulling along the muddy bottom. Took nearly 1.5 hours to get to the bridge.

3) We could have dropped the mast and POSSIBLY gotten under the bridge and around the trees. Stopped before the bridge and repaired the main sail (had someone bring repair equipment). Floated over to the tree with a gentleman who had a chainsaw, helped him cut the tree, got stuck in the tree due to the current, had a Hobie Adventure Islander pull us out of the tree, and decided it was better to try and go the long way around. Chainsaw man cut us a longer pole to use getting out of the canal, so we Tom Sawyer'd our way out of the canal and got out before dark.

4) Sailed slowly down the creek out where the canal is located, pitch black, hard to see what was going on and the wind was super light. We cut the shore too early on the way out of the creek (there is a marsh, then some water, then another island right outside the creek). Hit bottom near the island, with the spin up, wind was building due to a line of thunderstorms. Managed to drop the spinnaker, get the boards up, turn the boat around, drop the mainsail, pull the boat on the beach, grab a bunch of gear and hunker down under the tarp on the island. After the rain passed, we got in warmer cloths and setup camp on the boat. This turned out to be miserable, we were freezing all night even myself in a drysuit with several layers of fleece on underneath, the wind was just howling through our makeshift tent.

5) Woke up at 7am freezing, evaluated the wind, which was blowing from the NW and the NNW at Cedar Island according to the marine VHF. We decided it would be fastest and safest to book it back to Cedar Island rather than go down the ICW, try and go through the bridge, and sail upwind all the way through Core Sound. We single wire reached down the Neuse and were back at Cedar Island at 11am.

Lessons learned:

1) 8' boat+10' tree is not less than 13' width of canal
2) Paddling a TheMightyHobie18 is exhausting, inefficient, and stupid
3) Dropping a mast after paddling, or before paddling, is liable to result in damage due to exhaustion and mental fatigue.
4) Sailing at night with no moon and only the GPS to guide you is no fun on a small boat (ok on a big boat with proper wind instruments)
5) Bring warmer camp clothes and a real tent if planning on Hobie camping.
6) Reefing a TheMightyHobie18 mainsail requires more reinforcing/don't do it.
7)Entering a race designed for kayaks and purpose-built boats on a beach catamaran is crazy.
8) Entering a distance race where there are few beaches,no hot babes,and no rum is stupid.

Last edited by samc99us; 10/02/11 02:59 PM.

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Hey Sam, [Re: samc99us] #238556
10/03/11 04:33 PM
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Sam,
It was a tough year only 28 aout of 50 starters finished. You are correct it this race has many trials that any other catsailors reading this forum can even imagine. How you tackle problems in the race will determine how you finish. Don't be so hard on yourselves I made the exact same mistake you made the first year. I was hoping you would use the little beach that I pulled out from. It took me two hours to make it to the first bridge the first year.
Anyway you recorded a 18 knot average returning down the Neuse. Better luck next year
Holdyourcourse out.

Re: North Carolina Challenge [Re: samc99us] #238557
10/03/11 04:38 PM
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I had rum. I can't believe you went sailing without Rum.

Re: North Carolina Challenge [Re: jpayers] #238561
10/03/11 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jpayers
I had rum. I can't believe you went sailing without Rum.


Well...there's a major issue for Sam. No wonder he sounds mad at the world!


Jake Kohl

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