| East Coast endurance race, would you do it? #240568 11/29/11 03:09 PM 11/29/11 03:09 PM |
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | A friend and fellow Worrell 1000 competitor asked me to gauge the interest in a race from Miami to Virginia. Seems there may be someone willing to put the race on (probably in 2013). It would be NON-STOP with 3 man teams. Boats would have to carry functioning trackers, and all logistics( where to swap out crew,etc.) are up to the teams, including any permits wherever you decided to land. First team to pick the check up off the bar at the finish ,gets it. The details aren't sorted out ,but probably any One design cats would qualify.
Would you do it? And I mean really do it ,not just type about it.
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | yes, except for the OD part.
Box rule, anything goes...
-Mike Not that I have any say in it, but that seems like a way to kill it before it starts. You'd end up with a couple of F-20c and maybe a Marstrom, and an RC. Who would build for one race? You're one design Mike, what would you be worried about.
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The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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Posts: 5,525 | You're on! I'll make a small wager it does happen.
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Posts: 5,525 | Anyone have pix and history of the Worrell? How many years it ran? How many H16s completed?
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | yes, except for the OD part.
Box rule, anything goes...
+1 Round the clock sailing? Bring on the racks, man. Todd? F18 and F20 only? WT F? And N-20, Tornado, F-16,etc...one design. I would assume. I'm just a sounding board for this and really know no more than I've posted. They may want to do a box rule, (he said one design) , don't know , but to me that would just create a hellacious arms race and reduce overall participation, just MY opinion. It sounds as if they may be shooting for absolute minimum hassle from an organizing stand point ergo the Teams are responsible for everything deal, safety, lodging, bail,etc.. And PTP thanks for the vote of confidence ,if the interest and participation aren't there, then you are right it probably won't happen.If there is interest ,hopefully it will.
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The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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Posts: 217 Palm Harbor, FL | From what I can tell, the Worrell never had more than 20 participants. It seems to me that you don't need to gauge interest from the sailors, if you put it on, they will come. However, without sponsors the whole thing dies.
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Posts: 5,525 | I don't care about the details particularly but it's a great idea. I'll buy a shirt, decal, cap or any other advertising stuff.
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | From what I can tell, the Worrell never had more than 20 participants. It seems to me that you don't need to gauge interest from the sailors, if you put it on, they will come. However, without sponsors the whole thing dies. Yeah, but even this is a little different than the Worrell. The Worrell was very structured with stops, layovers, starts (including evening starts for night legs), etc. It was setup this way so media could follow it. Sponsorship is a whole 'nother animal too. Let's face it, the Worrell, Tybee, etc., never really got THAT much out of sponsorship (and this race appears to be reducing the management costs so that it shouldn't be an issue). People drove these races to happen and found ways to barely make ends meet. Team sponsorships have never amounted to an incredible amount either - most teams pay 80 to 90% of their own expenses out of pocket anyway even with the appearance of a big sponsor. This race sounds like a different animal and would be hard to compare against the Worrell...it's closer to the structure of the WaterTribe events (Everglades challenge) but without specific checkpoints while providing the ability to switch crew. You have the option to sail it how you want to sail it - take your time, create your own check points, or full out sail through every night and try to get there first. My own personal delima is about how our team would approach the race and this plays into whether or not I would want to do it. Within our class, there's probably not much chance I can keep pace with the leaders in endurance and my time to prepare/train is at an all-time low for the time being. Outside of our class, there's little chance an F18 could win it. With winning out of the picture, I have to ignore the fact that there is prize money and find our own approach, and motivation, to do the race. Do we take it low and slow, take our time, and get there over the course of two weeks for the sake of sailing the distance (bucket list), or do we see how hard we can push ourselves and see who we can beat along the way? The possibility for a lot of night sailing factors in there too. I guess one of my concerns is that it's possible I don't see another boat, or team, along the entire distance. Perhaps it's possible to break the distance with one or two checkpoints that require boats that arrive between midnight to midnight to restart together the next morning at 10am the next morning with starts for several days...or, perhaps, takeaway some structure from the Archipeligo Raid... Team Seacats is a prospect for the race and are interested to see how it would be structured.
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Posts: 5,525 | "Do we take it low and slow, take our time, and get there over the course of two weeks for the sake of sailing the distance (bucket list), or do we see how hard we can push ourselves and see who we can beat along the way? The possibility for a lot of night sailing factors in there too."
I hadn't thought about that. Such an approach would be tailor made for the Tiki, any of them, or any other cruising cat.
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Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, | I'd be willing to type about it. Give all kinds of opinions about it. Then not do it.
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | From what I can tell, the Worrell never had more than 20 participants. It seems to me that you don't need to gauge interest from the sailors, if you put it on, they will come. However, without sponsors the whole thing dies. Yeah....I Don't see that happening. hasn't worked that way in the past, I wouldn't expect it to now. As far as sponsors go, that would be up to the teams. These guys aren't trying to make a business model or spectacle out of it.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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