Whatever it turns out to be, I'll give it a shot if at all possible.

Is it true that under Texel, F16 uni has to give time to sloops?

List of Texel ratings: http://www.watersportverbond.nl/data/documents/Zeilen/Texelrating/numdet%2024-9-2011.pdf

Thanks Jeff. 102 w/spin, 1 or 2 up.

The crew column indicates 1 - Uni.

Dave, If you scroll down the list there is another entry for two up. The list is sorted by number of crew.

You guys are getting wayyy ahead of the regatta.

Back to the heart of the matter, and the survey:

Should the Alter Cup be a ladder event, where only the "qualifed" top 10-20 saiors race, or should it be an Open event, with a hundred cats of all types, all on one line, racing Portsmouth (or Texel, chose one) for the one, overall, Multihull Championship?

Beyond the survey, there has been no call for public comment. An error, imo.

But, I'll give it a shot and make up my mind from firsthand experience.

I indicated that I would prefer the ladder type event, with a few slots for petition. That said, I would probably sail a handicap event if it had a large, high quality fleet. Sailed a texel regatta over the weekend and it was still fun racing, although there were certainly times being the scratch boat both helped and hurt us.

Sadly guys it's going to be the whatever the employees of US Sailing want. The volunteers and sailors will have little say if any on what the championship will be. It's pretty clear from the feedback Mike has received from the employees (Jack and Liz) and posted here that it's going to play out that way. According to US Sailing (based on posts in this thread) most of us have aged out anyway.

Age. You think that could stand a court challenge? I suspect USS is a bit of an empty coat, not many members for the mandate they have and their lack of open representation would not stand a challenge.

Again, I pledge $100 towards a court challenge.

And what do they care how many boats show up anyway?

Sounds to me like they only want a big turnout to generate more money...for US Sailing, as was mentioned in an earlier post, only what, 10% of the Alter Cup fees went to the actual event, and the other 90% went to US Sailing...for...??

The rule books?
The the office rent?
The salaries of the full time office people, or all of the above?

Either challenege the status quo or accept it.

I thought that was the whole point of the survey...we just have to wait for the results, see what the Majority want to do.

Where was there mention of a majority? Or mention of any specific action?

I think this is what's happening: a new group of volunteers is very zealously trying to do something good for multihull sailing; at the same time the old guard is throwing out this red herring survey as evidence they are trying to represent their constituency.

Does anyone have an actual copy of the survery? I did not save one.

Dave... get real ! ...

US sailing knows they don't have boats, clubs, people to run an event... of ANY size... (the Miami YC's and volunteers from around the country come together to put on the OCR's.) The rank and file have to support the final decision or nothing is going to happen. There will be no boots on the ground. So, they will do what ever the consensus is from the cat sailing world... Problem is... there is no consensus.
(I know it's painful for what ever group steps up to work with USSA and make it happen but that is really a secondary issue)

The elite + qualifier regatta championship support has fallen apart....
Now what?

Eliminate the qualifiers and make it petitions or selection?
Reformat the championship?

The mixed multihull class is a new variable... perhaps the energy behind the Olympic push will make the USSA championship relevant.

I have no idea what the best way forward is right now. BUT... the problem is us... we have to figure out what we want and then make it happen. (the amount of USSA BS is just sand in the beach wheels.)

It's really not just sand in the beach wheels. There has been quite a bit of difference between the resources provided by US Sailing toward the Adult Multihull Championship and other Championships.

And those championships are cratering as well (cancelled) and under review in this whole process.

Seems to me... you need the Volunteers to put on the event... the Sailors to spend the money to race the event... You need the paid staff to maintain the process year over year.

I must have missed that in the conversation - is this the case?

"under review in this whole process."

They might try open elections.

I found this in the 2011 report. Hardly a huge organization with unlimited funding capability.

40,000+ members. Membership revenue of $1.67 mil.