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#247272 04/20/12 01:10 PM 04/20/12 01:10 PM | MarkMT
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Unregistered | Interesting that the result was so decisive. Nacra 17 the first choice of 14 out of 18 sailors. And a one piece mast is being recommended. | | | Re: ISAF Multihull Evaluation Panel Report
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#247273 04/20/12 01:15 PM 04/20/12 01:15 PM | MarkMT
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Unregistered | Also interesting that the hulls for the top three boats are all built in the same factory - Composite Marine in Thailand. | | | Re: ISAF Multihull Evaluation Panel Report
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#247277 04/20/12 03:06 PM 04/20/12 03:06 PM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | All righty then, let's all run out and get a new Nacra 17!
So, what's it gonna cost?
More, or less, than the F18??
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#247279 04/20/12 03:27 PM 04/20/12 03:27 PM | MarkMT
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Unregistered | Looks like the Nacra 17 is the most expensive option except for the Marstrom Tornado. 16,750 Euro for the first 100 boats or until Oct 31, whichever is earlier. Thereafter 19,000 Euro.
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#247285 04/20/12 05:01 PM 04/20/12 05:01 PM |
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | so, with more volume the price goes up?? New Nacra marketing tool. Look how well it worked on the F-20c.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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#247286 04/20/12 05:10 PM 04/20/12 05:10 PM |
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Posts: 2,921 Michigan | seriously though- spreading the marketing and R+D over more boats should theoretically bring the price down right? what is the thought process behind the price increase? this is stupid. Not a fan of Nacra in general though.
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#247289 04/20/12 05:40 PM 04/20/12 05:40 PM |
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | and why I'm not a fan of SMOD
I'm boatless.
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#247290 04/20/12 05:48 PM 04/20/12 05:48 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | This is great... If ISAF sticks with the rec... the existing fleets won't be bothered... Mixed multihull will go off and do it's own thing. The mixed multi class will look like the Tornado class did in most of the world.
My read of the docs suggest that ISAF has enough of a reason in the report to select a boat based on the non technical factors. Will that be the right way to go... who the hell knows.
BTW... was anybody surprised at the rank order of the top three. Was anyone surprised that the Hobie 16 did not rate well with the sailors that were sent.
So... does ISAF have an ounce of wisdom to pick a boat, explain why, and have the participation from the world that they want?
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#247294 04/20/12 10:17 PM 04/20/12 10:17 PM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Looks like the Nacra 17 is the most expensive option except for the Marstrom Tornado. 16,750 Euro for the first 100 boats or until Oct 31, whichever is earlier. Thereafter 19,000 Euro. The Euro is about $1.32 US Dollars today, so that makes it $22,144 for the first 100 and $25,118 for the rest.
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#247297 04/21/12 01:59 AM 04/21/12 01:59 AM |
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | and that excludes taxes and delivery
Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Did they ask anyone on the selection panel if they were going to buy one?
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#247304 04/21/12 07:07 AM 04/21/12 07:07 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | seriously though- spreading the marketing and R+D over more boats should theoretically bring the price down right? what is the thought process behind the price increase? this is stupid. Not a fan of Nacra in general though. At least they are honest and up front in the fact that "once we have the Olympic selection locked up, we will increase prices".
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#247305 04/21/12 07:18 AM 04/21/12 07:18 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Too funny!
You know how Airbus markets their airplanes?
They sell them cheap (they gave them to Jet Blue...FREE!) then they kill you on the parts!
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#247311 04/21/12 03:13 PM 04/21/12 03:13 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | That's exactly how Oracle and MSFT do it too. Tech support is license to print $$$. Larry is a douche but he is not a tard.
Psst... the equipment was selected a long time ago.
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