| AC Youth Sailing #248474 05/16/12 01:32 PM 05/16/12 01:32 PM |
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Posts: 749 Santa Cruz, CA | This community is pretty tapped in to the world of cat sailing. Have any youth sailors received a call from the AC regarding sailing an AC 45? I'd like to get an interview with them if so. Tomorrow's announcement at the AC press conference regarding youth sailing is going to be interesting. Red Bull? Stories
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Posts: 5,525 | That's how I read it. Jeez, I hope nobody actually does that.
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#248565 05/18/12 11:45 AM 05/18/12 11:45 AM |
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Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, | Well let's put together our dream team of Youth for the US and get them sponsored. If by nobody else we can sponsor them. I'll put up some dough for a well balanced team.
5. CREW 5.1. Crew selection: Each team shall be responsible for selection of their crew. 5.2. Number: Yachts shall be sailed with a crew of 6 persons. 5.3. Age: All members of the crew shall be aged at least 19 of age on August 1, 2013 and shall be no older than 23 years of age on October 1, 2013. 5.4. Nationality: Each crewmember must have held a passport of or have been domiciled in the country of the team for which he/she is sailing for a period of five years immediately prior to the first scheduled race of the regatta. 5.5. Maximum Crew Weight: The maximum all up crew weight shall not exceed 450 kg
(950 lbs) approx 165 lbs per person.
I'll Start Correct me if I'm wrong on any of the ages.
Matthew Whitehead. Taylor Reiss Sarah Newberry.
These kids are all a bit light though. All have proven themselves as elite sailors.
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Posts: 554 Boston, Ma | I would donate towards a team, wish I was a couple years younger!
I would throw my (soon to be) brother-in-law to the list: David Hein
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | Nah... the boat is run by specialists.
You need to put down the positions and the exact skill set needed then recruit for those positions.
Getting people who think they are helms... not a plan. The plan I floated upwards was to spec out the criterion for each crew position... Run a selection process where sailors could build their resume for one of those positions over the summer. (grinder, trimmer, etc) Have a selection committee pick the team at the end of the summer.
There are a number of big fast multi's and tris and race keel boats around the country... Use these owners as part of a coaching team where the candidates get the training they need towards the job they are shooting for and they get a recommendation from the coaches on the boats.
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#248572 05/18/12 12:36 PM 05/18/12 12:36 PM |
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Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, | I'd like to understand the six positions. Maybe someone here can help.
I'll name what I know. 1. Helm 2. Jib Trimmer. 3. Grinder.
And I'll argue that just because they helm normally doesn't mean that they will be helming on this boat. Most if not all would be happy to be in any position. I think a person that can fit in any position would help the team the most.
We would also need a great coach. That's a tough one. Quite a few outstanding coaches.
What are the other positions.
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Posts: 749 Santa Cruz, CA | This is good. My concern is that due to the rouge nature of cat sailors in general, the traditional Yacht Clubs/collegiate sailing programs have a leg up. I saw it in SF yesterday, where Cal, Stanford, et al. were represented in the presentation...nary a wayward catsailor. I'd like to see women represented on the youth boat as well! Someone best come up with a plan...and soon! | | | Re: AC Youth Sailing
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Posts: 490 | My thoughts as well, Surf City.
College sailors are going to eat this alive because they are very well trained, disciplined in many types of sailing craft, and diverse in skills. Ever hear of 'Morning Light?'
The romantic notion of the beach cat sailors competing is over - it's a myth... though I am sure a few hard fighters in the Cat 'Ohana' might make it through...Matt Whitehead is my first example. He has been on the sailing team this year in college and possibly has a lead.
The sailors in the required age range were brought up on optis, lasers, 420's and keel/sport boats. How many beach cat sailors with a wide range of disciplines are available, percentage wise, compared to the yacht club and college grown sailors the same age?
How many boats will finally be available?
Of course, I am taking the dark side just in case - murphy's law or something driven by fate and fortune might allow two USA boats to match race for the US ACWS - thus offering, at least, more opportunities. | | | Re: AC Youth Sailing
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Posts: 5,525 | I was thinking an individual (parents) had to come up with that much.
$100. Who do I send the check to?
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#248584 05/18/12 02:59 PM 05/18/12 02:59 PM |
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Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, | We would have to come up with some serious cash.
5K up front for consideration. Returned if not selected 30K more if selected for entry. 25K for Damage deposit.
If my math is right that's 60K just for starters. Travel, Food, and hotel for 14 days I would assume be covered by participants or parents? Coach fee would have to be covered somehow. Not sure I would guess around 5K for coach fee depending on who you get.
Not sure how you cover all those costs.
We could run it through Carlyle Youth Sailing School (CYSS) as a 501c Non Profit. Then CYSS could cut the check of 5K to the ACRM.
I think raising 5K would be pretty easy. Raising the rest might be harder.
Also would need to have a board put together for the selection.
I say if the team doesn't get accepted we donate the funds to the Hoyt-Jolly fund.
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