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#250255 06/29/12 06:45 AM 06/29/12 06:45 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Vendor A has nice products and supports local regattas to you with donations or raffle prizes. Vendor B has products of equal quality but is easily found online cheaper than vendor A. This vendor does not visibly support any local events to you.
How much more would you be willing to pay vendor A if at all? If shipping didn't matter and both items were identical, would you be willin to spend 10% more on vendor A? It might depend on whether or not he promotes racist statements.
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#250257 06/29/12 07:14 AM 06/29/12 07:14 AM |
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Posts: 217 Palm Harbor, FL | An individual consumer in USA's capitalist culture has very little power. One strength he does have is the ability to withhold how much he is willing to pay for products. Why should I publicly disclose such information?
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#250258 06/29/12 07:14 AM 06/29/12 07:14 AM |
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Posts: 1,304 Gulf Coast relocated from Cali... | It might depend on whether or not he promotes racist statements. Come on man. This is a legitimate topic, lets not bring more of that bull$hit into another thread.
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Posts: 1,304 Gulf Coast relocated from Cali... | I think it's great to see a vendor support out events by being there. I, for one, will give them my business. HOWEVER, I also like that we have a free forum here and will patronize Rick's store as well, just like I have Murray's. It boils down (for me) the feeling I get from where I spend my money. If they just want in my pocket, I won't go back. I've had Key Sailing go the extra mile for me and rushing to get me a part too, much better than my local store KO Sailing. Personally, I would like to make a better effort to shop from Rick more since he provides this forum as well as clincs and some top notch races.
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#250261 06/29/12 07:42 AM 06/29/12 07:42 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | "If shipping didn't matter and both items were identical, would you be willin to spend 10% more on vendor A?"
No. I doubt the validity of your hypothesis, there's always a difference. Also, money is a concern for me, the less I spend on other boat related things, the more regattas I can attend. So, indirectly vendors with lower prices are enabling my habit hobby.
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#250262 06/29/12 07:44 AM 06/29/12 07:44 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | It might depend on whether or not he promotes racist statements. Come on man. This is a legitimate topic, lets not bring more of that bull$hit into another thread. It's offensive - and I wasn't the one who brought that signature here....and to be honest, that kind of stuff on a contractor's van or vendor who's giving me a proposal would affect my decision to hire them or not. That person/vendor/contractor's skill/talent may overcome it but he's already started half a step down if nothing else but from the display of insensitivity. We have sailors in our area that might take that tag line very seriously and I feel a bit of responsibility to call it out since the first time it got called out didn't stop it. I don't want my sailors/friends to think that through inaction we might actually condone that kind of atmosphere here. I don't care if you think a view point, idea, person (me even) or action is stupid. Heritage / skin color is a different matter.
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#250265 06/29/12 08:08 AM 06/29/12 08:08 AM | MN3
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BUT I agree with Jake. anyone who drags offensive politics, racism, or just about any other kind of degrading viewpoint (via bumper sticker, or something i overhear) will most likely not get my business).
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#250268 06/29/12 08:47 AM 06/29/12 08:47 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | Slight variant of the original question which posited the condition "equal".
I agree, if you're going to get good "service after the sale" then support the servicer. Business relations are a two way street, imo.
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#250270 06/29/12 09:31 AM 06/29/12 09:31 AM |
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Kudo's Jake! Clearly racism is alive and well in the US.
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#250271 06/29/12 09:40 AM 06/29/12 09:40 AM |
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Posts: 1,304 Gulf Coast relocated from Cali... | So, I guess Bacho is a vendor? If that's the case then, Jake, I appologize. If he's not, then are you going to slam each post he makes based on his signature? Why not be the bigger man and ingnore it? BTW, it's not anything I'd ever have on my signature but we do still have Freedom of Speech in this country.
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#250274 06/29/12 10:02 AM 06/29/12 10:02 AM |
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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | jesus f*cking christ....... Bacho, open a store. I'll buy whatever you're peddling, just to keep things in balance so we aren't all a pile of mindless automatons. To the actual question, I can't really say as I'm in a unique position. and Jake, that's why my work truck doesn't have anything other than the company logo on it. Although most of the yuppies I do work for would have no clue who I support in elections is. Kudo's Jake! Clearly racism is alive and well in the US. Yes it is, just watch a few hours of BET. There's a steady stream of urine running down my leg I'm laughing so hard. (edit)- Also, you butt clowns have no clue what racism is. Lock an old Korean and an old Japanese man in a room full of sharp objects, you'll f-ing see racism. Or, something a bit more with the times, lock a Israeli and a Palestinian in that same room. That's racism. I remember a bumper sticker I saw in traffic one day: "Who would Jesus bomb" I wish I could caught up with the person and told them Palestine.
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#250275 06/29/12 10:04 AM 06/29/12 10:04 AM |
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Posts: 338 | Mr. Bacho – though I will agree you signature is a bit offensive and speaks volumes to your IQ, unless the moderator of this forum has problem with this, you have every right in the world to leave it there. And I would suggest you not cave into the opinion of others. Mr. Kohl – who the hell are you or stated better who died and made you God? Take your sanctimonious crap elsewhere, or do what you do best when people don’t kiss you butt and agree with everything you say – put him on ignore. I dont care about 10% (unless we are talking BIG purchases) and I am willing to pay 10% more to support vender's I appreciate. I will pay in cash too to save them 5%
Arn't you the guy that went to a business on the west coast to save a few bucks and got bad service because he was cheaper then the guy down the street? Glad to see you learned your lesson!
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#250279 06/29/12 10:14 AM 06/29/12 10:14 AM |
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Posts: 338 | Or, something a bit more with the times, lock a Israeli and a Palestinian in that same room. That's racism.
No that's religion... Dafur, that's racism! | | | Re: How much would you spend on vendors who support you?
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#250281 06/29/12 10:15 AM 06/29/12 10:15 AM |
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | BTW, it's not anything I'd ever have on my signature but we do still have Freedom of Speech in this country. _________________________ Lee
Hmm.... back to high school dude... and pay attention this time... freedom of speech is about the state regulating your speech. (see the other supreme court decision Thursday)
Rick could and should eliminate all bacho posts that use that signature line. This is a privately run board.
Rick does regulate speech.... For example...
I am not offended by a poster using the George Carlin's Seven Dirty words (****, Piss, kiss, femalegenitalia, ****, Mother fucker and Tits.)
I am offended by racist clap trap.
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#250283 06/29/12 10:17 AM 06/29/12 10:17 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | "I am offended by racist clap trap." Um, this case is out in the open, inviting criticism. There is merit in that, imo. Things that don't offend me: http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=136602
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