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#252702 09/25/12 10:22 AM 09/25/12 10:22 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | My main concern would be about the synthetic stuff being cut or frayed and then breaking while I'm out racing. My steel stay wires are not that heavy in the first place and I like not having to worry about stretch or breakage, especially when I leave the boat with the mast up for a month or more.
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[Re: Rolf_Nilsen]
#252708 09/25/12 11:02 AM 09/25/12 11:02 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | My nightmare is when you leave your beach cat alone overnight and some clown with a knife or a cigarette lighter comes by...
The bigger boats are usually kept at more secure locations, and they save more weight up high as their wires weigh quite a bit more. I think my steel stay are thinner than 3mm, so the synthetic stuff would add drag up high, right? Is that better or worse than a few oz. of weight?
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[Re: Rolf_Nilsen]
#252712 09/25/12 11:42 AM 09/25/12 11:42 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | You live in a better place, no doubt! Here in Florida you can't leave ANYTHING outside over night, or you risk losing it if it's small enough to be hauled off, or damaged, if it's in a public spot.
There have been many guys who have found cigarette burns on their tramps the next morning at a public beach regatta.
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#252713 09/25/12 12:02 PM 09/25/12 12:02 PM |
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway Rolf_Nilsen OP
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Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway | I leave my boat at the club and dont worry about it. No fences at the club, mainroad to the town passes 100 meters from the lot. Pedestrian road passes almost through the club. Except from kids who wants to jump on the "trampoline" and one incident where we either lost a locking pin or somebody removed it. There have been no man-made issues with our boats there at least. Resale value for a stolen cat in the domestic market would be nil. Perhaps you should relocate to this place and begin flying for SAS Other concerns or thoughts about synthetic rigging? How about the drag issue Wayne mentioned with 5mm stays instead of 2.5/3mm? | | | Re: Has the time arrived for synthetic rigging?
[Re: Rolf_Nilsen]
#252739 09/26/12 09:50 AM 09/26/12 09:50 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | I'd be opposed to changing class rules. Change just creates dissent and ill-will.
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#252745 09/26/12 10:13 AM 09/26/12 10:13 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | No, all these discussions usually lead to talk of rules changes. Sorry, guess I jumped the gun.
I'm satisfied with my equipment as it is.
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#252764 09/26/12 11:55 AM 09/26/12 11:55 AM |
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Posts: 1,021 Australia | Wait a sec Macca, I thought PBO was also a fiber, but much less elastic than aramid?
What would you recommend as a budget solution for fiber rigging on an F16 to be sailed by a 102kg crew (102kg + equipment/clothes)?
Aaaaand.... What are you currently filling your time with? Still sailing? Boating business or something completly different? Aramid is much less elastic than Dyneema (although a unidirectional dyneema SK90 is pretty good these days) but PBO is really great stuff and has a very small amount of elasticity and it is a noticeable difference. We are using solid carbon on a new project now and it is a huge step up from PBO in stiffness and elasticity so we expect to see a similar gain. For a beach cat like your F16 I think you will struggle to find anything off the shelf that is better than wire for the same diameter, but you should have a look at easy rigging if you are serious about it. Sure its more expensive than wire or rope, but its a lot better. As for my current project.... you will all see soon enough it pretty special and will certainly make the news. | | |
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