| Re: How to handle a gust upwind
[Re: Leo Ambtman]
#252917 10/01/12 04:19 PM 10/01/12 04:19 PM |
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | you didn't mention the boat but I will assume you have a modern prebend mast.
Start off in light air with downhaul at just enough tension to take wrinkles out of the main. Once you are able to double trap and have the boat popping up too quickly, begin inching on some down haul to control the power. Once you're in the ball park, have crew play the main while trapping to fine tune the power during the gust. The goal is to ease at gust onset and then start sheeting in again BEFORE the lifting hull reaches its max height & starts to fall. You want to keep the hull off the water. If the crew is needing the sheet more than an easy arm length of line to control the hull pop...you need a bit more DH. If the hull stops lifting/boat feels dead...you've got too mcuh DH for current breeze. Steering up to control the power is not a go fast technique...but it can save your butt is an emergency (ie if crew forgets to react on the sheet).
This technique will make the boat feel like it is on rails...no longer popping up rapidly...squirting forward in the gusts. It need practise, but when you get it right the rewards are big.
Mike Dobbs Tornado CAN 99 "Full Tilt"
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[Re: Tornado]
#252927 10/01/12 10:25 PM 10/01/12 10:25 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | goal is to ease at gust onset
This is the key skill.... you need to see the gust coming at you.... Your sheet hand must anticipate the gust hitting your boat and ease at exactly the right time .... if you are counting on feeling the hull lift from where you are normally flying it... you are too late... the elevator ride up and down is not fast.
The fast boats don't change the boat attitude.... they go faster in the puffs... the ease at the onset and the sheet back in as the puff attenuates gives you the speed.
Another gear is to take height.
you take height if that is called for tactically. That conversation height or speed also needs to happen before the gust hits. it also requires seeing and anticipating the gust... not feeling the gust.
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[Re: brucat]
#252941 10/02/12 06:24 AM 10/02/12 06:24 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Hard to perfect, but if you can work the traveler rather than the sheet, that's even better.
Mike I'm not sure about that with a square head sail plan. We only ease the traveler as a gross adjustment after the downhaul is maxed.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: How to handle a gust upwind
[Re: Leo Ambtman]
#252950 10/02/12 07:37 AM 10/02/12 07:37 AM |
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Posts: 3,969 | I said work the traveler (as in, treat it like a sheet), not ease it as a gross adjustment.
I'm not capable of it (or skilled at it) either, but apparently it works well for some teams at the upper echelons of Hobie 16s. Crew holds the main sheet, skipper pumps the traveler. Keeps the boat flat, and more importantly fast, as you're not dumping wind out of the sail, but squeezing it out the back.
There are very few American teams that actually do this, however. May just be that we don't practice or race in enough wind consistently?
Mike | | | Re: How to handle a gust upwind
[Re: brucat]
#252959 10/02/12 08:09 AM 10/02/12 08:09 AM |
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Posts: 778 Houston | Hard to perfect, but if you can work the traveler rather than the sheet, that's even better. Mike This is somewhat boat and sail specific. It can work on a H16 but on other boats, you go slower. The Tornado does not like it. On some boomless boats having the crew work the downhaul with the skipper ready on the main in case the downhaul. bottoms out, seems to work in heavy air. On a lot boats, you need to foot off a little(why you may need to do this is related to apparent wind and is left as an exercise for the student) Also, these techniques assume that you have good sails and everything else is set right. Have you ever had the downhaul hang up full on and discovered that nothing seems to work right. Or put new sails on your boats and found out you had been heading up rather than easing out to compensate for the blown sail? | | | Re: How to handle a gust upwind
[Re: brucat]
#252962 10/02/12 08:13 AM 10/02/12 08:13 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I said work the traveler (as in, treat it like a sheet), not ease it as a gross adjustment.
I'm not capable of it (or skilled at it) either, but apparently it works well for some teams at the upper echelons of Hobie 16s....
Mike i.e. not a square head sail plan...you've got so much sail area up high with a square head that you're much better off to make shape changes up high. The traveler reduces the angle of the entire mainsail resulting in a substantial loss in power. Tiny changes to the traveler make big changes in the power level on a square head and is very hard to control...best to drop the power up high by inducing twist with downhaul and mainsheet tension while keeping the bottom of the sail driving lowering the center of effort and reducing the healing force. Drop the traveler an inch at a time so you can still work the puffs with full-on hard mainsheet in the lulls to maintain as little aero drag as possible.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: How to handle a gust upwind
[Re: brucat]
#252980 10/02/12 10:49 AM 10/02/12 10:49 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Right. Well, I didn't see where he said he had a square head either...
Good discussion points to point out the key differences, Jake.
Mike Good point - I recalled he posted about a Tornado previously.
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