looks like they shouldn't have dumped the original requirement for a big and small wing
I understand the wing being beyond repair, but the platform too?
I have not seen how the righted it, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's how te platform got damaged badly. They also said it was badly damamged from foiling.
Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
[Re: P.M.]
#253589 10/17/1208:43 AM10/17/1208:43 AM
It made it back to the dock turtled,never was righted, so it's a safe bet the wing is a complete loss. I was at least hoping they could save the spar. All of you have to know it was inevitable. You can't push the development edge that hard without some consequences.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
[Re: P.M.]
#253590 10/17/1208:50 AM10/17/1208:50 AM
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
[Re: P.M.]
#253592 10/17/1209:00 AM10/17/1209:00 AM
I can't imagine what it feels like to go from sitting on the aft part of the boat then rise to 40-50'(est) while the transoms are lifting in the air ...
Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
[Re: P.M.]
#253593 10/17/1209:07 AM10/17/1209:07 AM
A lot of gory detail, as far as wing breakage in this one.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
[Re: P.M.]
#253598 10/17/1210:03 AM10/17/1210:03 AM
Total shame but not really unexpected. Great thing no one was seriously injured. Think I might get some helmets for those 20kt+ days on the F18/N20.
I'm surprised a little more wasn't done to slow the drift and prevent more damage to the platform? Oracle are the experts for sure and hindsight is 20/20 but maybe ditching the wing and at least righting the platform would have been a good way to get back on the water faster? Sounds like v2 is already in build so maybe not?
Scorpion F18
Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
[Re: samc99us]
#253600 10/17/1210:33 AM10/17/1210:33 AM
Total shame but not really unexpected. Great thing no one was seriously injured. Think I might get some helmets for those 20kt+ days on the F18/N20.
I'm surprised a little more wasn't done to slow the drift and prevent more damage to the platform? Oracle are the experts for sure and hindsight is 20/20 but maybe ditching the wing and at least righting the platform would have been a good way to get back on the water faster? Sounds like v2 is already in build so maybe not?
Once you ditch the wing you're not righting that platform without a bigass crane. The wing filling with water was what most likely kept them from righting in the first place. There were not many ways to do it different and accomplish anything. Faster righting before the wing filled is about it, and the current seemed to prevent that.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
[Re: samc99us]
#253601 10/17/1210:34 AM10/17/1210:34 AM
Thanks for the clarification guys. Lee I'm aware of the tidal based current flows in San Fran, just surprised they didn't motor against it but given the problems Cat_Fever outlined that wouldn't have worked.
What are the bets on seeing this thing fly again?
Scorpion F18
Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
[Re: TeamChums]
#253611 10/17/1203:27 PM10/17/1203:27 PM
Don't forget that the outgoing "tide" carrries the entire contents of the Sacramento River as well.
Once outside the Bridge you face the wrath of the entire north Pacific. The north shoal of the outer mouth of the GG is called the Potato Patch. Relativly shallow water, only 25-35 feet deep, makes a tough place to turtle a 131' mast. Huge swells can pump up waves in the 30 foot range but are themselves torn to shreds by the huge current.
Notice the condition of the AC72 right after the flip (pretty clean), then again after and hour of being pounded. I'm surprised there's anything left. Typical day in SF...7 knots westbound outgoing current, 30+ knots of wind coming in from the west, all funneled through the narrow GG. Nice place to turn downwind on a 72 foot cat. Like Butch Cassidy said, "Who are those guys?"
Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
[Re: P.M.]
#253616 10/17/1209:13 PM10/17/1209:13 PM