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#253958 10/25/12 05:49 PM 10/25/12 05:49 PM |
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Posts: 1,383 Kingston SE South Australia | F85SR awesome I did a long race last year which included a Farrier 31 with square top and it was magnificent to look at moored or full steam, I've been haunting the Farrier forums ever since. PGP a 20yr old fibreglass light weight sharpie hull is not too heavy to use and would only cost a few hundred dollars at most. These guys build them in glass but would probably have some plans for timber if you are desperate to get sawdust in your hair http://www.sharpies.com.au/BoatBuilders.html
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#253977 10/26/12 06:33 AM 10/26/12 06:33 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | Eventually but not yet. It's like dropping a girl friend that hasn't done anything wrong.
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#253982 10/26/12 07:47 AM 10/26/12 07:47 AM |
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Posts: 1,383 Kingston SE South Australia | A tri with Blade ama's and 18 or 20ft whatever middle hull with F16 rig would be drier and out perform a Weta by an enormous margin
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#253985 10/26/12 08:14 AM 10/26/12 08:14 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | No doubt. But it would also require more work to rig and sail and require more space for storage.
In addition to being easy to set up ( it uses what is basically a wind surfer mast, weighs 9 lbs.)the Weta tacks more quickly than cats so the tactics of playing shifts is relatively more important. The Weta is fun and easy, far less demanding than a cat. I turned 64 last May, fun and easy is beginning to trump performance.
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#254005 10/26/12 10:30 AM 10/26/12 10:30 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | That's a thought but they aren't class legal.
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#254018 10/26/12 02:05 PM 10/26/12 02:05 PM |
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Posts: 5,525 | I'm thinking about two or three different things and they all get mixed together at time. Sorry.
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#254046 10/27/12 03:43 PM 10/27/12 03:43 PM |
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Posts: 1,383 Kingston SE South Australia | Haha that looks like great fun in no wind but Id like to see a video of a 18 knot gust, coming through, think your on the right track with the Weta
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#254130 10/30/12 09:39 AM 10/30/12 09:39 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | so lots of comments on how to improve the weta:
- more freeboard for a drier ride - more sail area (or turbo setup) - etc
all those things would likely make it faster, but harder to set up and use. Given the target market appears to be those wishing an easy, no-fuss kind of sailing it may be counterproductive...?
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#254132 10/30/12 10:09 AM 10/30/12 10:09 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | I wasn't considering changes to the Weta, rather modifications to make the Blade a little safer for off shore, single handed work. Then of course I rode off in all directions...
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#254142 10/30/12 02:25 PM 10/30/12 02:25 PM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | when you say "off-shore" how far do you mean? Past sight of land?
Is the Blade rated for that kind of sailing? Is any beach cat rated for "off-shore"?
My thinking with beachcats is not to sail farther than I can swim, which puts it somewhere around 5-8 miles off the coast. Past that, and currents could keep me away from land until exposure claims me..
Jay
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#254143 10/30/12 02:58 PM 10/30/12 02:58 PM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Here you go Pete: http://www.virusboats.com/sailing-3-Magnum_18.html I was thinking it would be neet if Matt built a center hull, and we could add our 16' (or 18') hulls as the amas, and use our rig for the mast/sails, for a 21' tri, sort of like this: http://www.virusboats.com/sailing-2-Magnum_21_&_21.S.html Sort of like a Weta, but much bigger, faster and...putting on my NH accent now...Drya'!
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#254148 10/30/12 03:54 PM 10/30/12 03:54 PM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. Timbo
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | If I were going to do it, I'd keep it as low tech, cheap and simple as possible, and just use straight aluminium tubes for beams, like in those Virus boat pictures.
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#254149 10/30/12 04:01 PM 10/30/12 04:01 PM |
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Posts: 5,525 | I hear ya Jack, "more dreams than resources". And Tim, 220kg= 448 lbs. on my calculator.
Jay, to paraphase some one who will go unnamed, offshore is "further than you'd care to swim."
I was thinking something like the Weta using as many bits and pieces of the Blade as possible.
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