| I hear its really big all the time. Thanks.... #254053 10/27/12 08:46 PM 10/27/12 08:46 PM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn Karl_Brogger OP
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | Does anybody ever bitch that their sail box is too big? Hell no. I haven't figured the volume, but this thing is massive. 13+ feet long, almost 8-1/2 feet wide at the top of the "T". Front section is 40" tall, the back is 28" tall, and 42" wide. Spin pole is a non issue, hell the cat-trax will fit inside. The cat-trax is like throwing a hotdog down a hallway, (something I'm way too familiar with....), going into that box. Just the bottom made up and sized: putting the sides on: I've got nine hours into it to get it to this point. I'm going to have to finish a few things up tomorrow. Bondo screw holes, and make a lid and a couple of doors, then she'll be ready for paint. I know plywood isn't going to last very long, but I wasn't ready to shell out probably $4k to have this thing built from diamond plate. Plus it'd be nice to try it out before making the jump to a really expensive box. As is, there's about $600 in material there. My last one was made out of wood and really poorly finished, and severely neglected and I probably could've gone through all of next season before it started to really disintegrate. It survived three full seasons of sitting outside.
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#254055 10/28/12 04:28 AM 10/28/12 04:28 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Cover it with glass cloth and cheap resin, it will last a long time and you can sleep in it instead of paying for a motel, so you've got that going for you!
All you need is an air mattress and your inflatable date.
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#254058 10/28/12 06:09 AM 10/28/12 06:09 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | Throw in your sleeping bag and you're good for the winter.
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#254064 10/28/12 11:59 AM 10/28/12 11:59 AM |
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | Nice workshop!
Any concept sketch to see how it is planned to turn out?
Its my work, kinda why I need to get it outta here this weekend. The shop is nice, but it's seriously short on space. I need another 5000 sq/ft (465sq/m) to get comfortable again. The building I'm in is for sale, (I rent this space), if and when it does sell my business might be homeless and it'll be time to put up a new building. Though I'm not sure I'll be able to afford to put up much more than 5000 sq/ft to start with. But if I lay it out with the intention of adding on, it won't be that big of a deal to do so. I didn't really have a plan going into it. Just to maximize the available space that's on the trailer. I'll sort out where everything is going to go inside once I have it finished up, and I try to load it up with everything. I need to have it painted and ready to travel for next weekend. I've got a gallon of the bed liner stuff, I think I'm going to do the front of the box with that. Should help protect it from the pickup a little bit. All terrain tires, doesn't really matter too much. They throw up some sh!t.
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#254067 10/28/12 01:56 PM 10/28/12 01:56 PM |
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | Looks good. Whatever you cover it with, take the advice and epoxy it first, especially end grain. Been there and it works. Only place I had problems was where screws were put in for hardware, the rest held up for about 15 years.
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#254069 10/28/12 04:05 PM 10/28/12 04:05 PM |
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | I ain't got time for epoxy right now. Seriously one more step would mean it wouldn't be hitting the road in a week. I've got just enough time to slap some paint on it, anchor it, and hit the road.
I'm boatless.
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#254083 10/28/12 09:14 PM 10/28/12 09:14 PM |
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Posts: 1,383 Kingston SE South Australia | I would get a mudflap that goes from one side of your car to the other because any rocks you flick up are going to hit the back of your car including the rear window (Don't ask me how I know). You could thin the epoxy and brush it on, it will soak in and dry overnight. A big advantage is it will fill any gaps making the box waterproof, at the moment you cant wash your boat on that trailer without wrecking the box.
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#254103 10/29/12 10:51 AM 10/29/12 10:51 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | I made a (much smaller) box like that out of door-skin on a 1 x 2 frame (cut down 2x4) and coated inside/outside in cheap polyester resin and glassed the edges.
Did what Rolf said and cut larger hole for screws, filled them in with epoxy/cabosil and re-drilled them. Learned that from mounting winches on my dad's boat.
Thing went 3 seasons (at least) without noticable rotting before I sold the thing. Stored outside and washed the boat on the trailer occasionally...
Probably would have lasted longer if I'd designed it better. Could stand on most parts of the box, too.
Jay
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#254117 10/29/12 08:29 PM 10/29/12 08:29 PM |
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | Well, I epoxied the whole thing inside and out. I pretty much wholesale murdered some brain cells sitting inside that thing. The first cost of paint should go well though.
I thinned out the epoxy with about 12% acetone, went on pretty nicely that way. It's thin, but it can be. I'll post some more pics in a bit.
I'm boatless.
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#254127 10/30/12 08:32 AM 10/30/12 08:32 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Just out of curiosity, does that box weigh more than your boat?
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#254133 10/30/12 10:09 AM 10/30/12 10:09 AM |
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | It's not to bad. More than 200#'s, but not a heck of a lot more. Two of us picked it up and set it on the trailer. I'm fine with weight. Truck is got plenty of snort, brakes, and suspension. The trailer has a pair of 2500# axles, but I'm only tagged for 3k#'s, it'll be close with three boats and gear. Really I'm adding more tongue weight than anything.
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#254137 10/30/12 11:00 AM 10/30/12 11:00 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Karl, what are you using to secure the box to the trailer? U bolts or...?
The reason I ask is, one of my biggest problems is ants getting into my box through the little bit of space around the bolt holes, then 'nesting' in my sails and stuff! I have learned to spray ant killer all around the U bolt holes to keep the little bastads out...but some still manage to find a way in.
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Posts: 1,246 Orlando, FL | I use self-tapping screws
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#254139 10/30/12 12:20 PM 10/30/12 12:20 PM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Screwed directly down into the trailer beams, from the inside of the box?
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