I'm not sure why that's a situation that a jumper is needed (unless there is someone trapped under the trampoline...which doesn't appear to be the case here).
That Hobie 20 had been over for about an hour. The mast was full of water and they couldn't right it. The wind was peaking at 35 kts, the water temp was 52°. There was also a 3 to 5 kt flood current trying to take them up on the rocks on the south side of Angel Island. The rescue boats alternated between towing him away from the rocks and trying to right the boat with the motorboat, without success. Brett went in the water to help them, and I transferred from the signal boat to the rescue boat to assist with the righting process.(We had called racing for the day, the photo was taken from the signal boat. We were about a mile and a half from where they originally capsized.)
Despite our best efforts, we still couldn't right the boat.We eventually towed it (still inverted) upwind/upcurrent of a very small beach on the southwest side of Angel Island and let them drift into shore - they missed hitting rocks by about a foot on the way in. They managed to right the boat on shore, dropped the sails and we threw them a spare radio attached to a Type IV PDF (cushion) so we could talk to them to coordinate getting them off the beach. They walked the boat up the beach to get away from the rocks, and we got as close as we dared to the surfline while Brett swam out to connect towlines. It took us the better part of an hour to tow them back to the launching area. The worst part of this was they tied up a significant portion of our rescue resources (two of six boats) when we had 50 other boats racing. A similar thing had happened to them two days prior (wasn't as windy) and they hadn't fixed it. (It was a charter boat and they had limited experience with a Hobie 20.) I wasn't going to let them sail the next day after this unless they fixed that mast. Fortunately, I didn't have to - they withdrew from the event after this incident - he knew he was over his head.
The best part? The guy's name was . . . John Williams.
And there was no damage to the boat, to people, we didn't get in the way of shipping or ferry traffic, and we didn't have to call the Coast Guard.
The two rescue boat drivers were ex-Vietnam war helicopter pilots. You never heard such professional radio comms in your life. Great guys to work with.
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Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced
[Re: mbounds]
#257183 02/07/1305:37 PM02/07/1305:37 PM
Yes, agree, running the races. MBounds wrote it well. Angel Island is low on my list of places to beach a multihull, however given the alternative, looks delightful.
My first Hobie (multihull) sail was rescuing a capsized boat in Richardson Bay off a lee shore, just North of the picture.
I would have considered popping off a shroud pin if I couldn't get it righted and there was no place to land. Good to have pliers/multi-tool within reach. At least that way you could get the hulls righted and perhaps the sails and rig back on board?
Obviously only if the situation were pre-emergent (like the poop would hit the fan in ten minutes)... like drifting in to rocks, shipping traffic, etc
I would have considered popping off a shroud pin if I couldn't get it righted and there was no place to land. Good to have pliers/multi-tool within reach. At least that way you could get the hulls righted and perhaps the sails and rig back on board?
It is almost impossible to right a catamaran without the rig on it. The only one I've ever seen done is a Hobie 14, and it took two guys to do that.
Also, you can't just "pull a pin" on a rig that's got significant tension in it - like a Hobie 20 or an F18.
The only other alternative we had was to tow the boat - slowly - out of the wind, waves and current to where we could right it with the rescue boat. We came very close to doing it in the open water, but the boat would take off on us as soon as it came up and would go right over again. Would have worked better if they had made sure the traveler was all the way out, but remember, the boat was completely upside down most of the time.
Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced
[Re: mbounds]
#257283 02/11/1310:43 AM02/11/1310:43 AM
It is almost impossible to right a catamaran without the rig on it. The only one I've ever seen done is a Hobie 14, and it took two guys to do that.
I can testify to that one. De-masted a Hobie 14 in Hurricane Gultch (Long Beach Harbor) on my third attempt at rounding the weather mark. Lost the rig. Even with a power boat, it was nearly impossible to flip the hulls and tramp back over. Try it on dry land sometime. In water you sink and the boat slips away from you. A mast (and raised sail) is a giant lever arm and or kick stand.
At least on a 14 you can sink a corner and start the rotation. A Hobie 20 has too much volume far aft and far forward. As does the Hobie Wave. Back when we introduced the Wave, we took it to Club Med in Hualtuco Mexico (at the H16 Worlds). The club staff quickly tested something we had not... righting from Turtle. With both Doug and Myself standing on the transom... we could barely get it back over and righted. That is the day of conception for Baby Bob.
This thread and some brain storming sessions of the MHC convince me that our sport really could use a Safety manual of best practices and recommendations.
We have some things... PU's terrific Hobie Race manual.
But... were I to be on a mark boat for a Wave regatta and gone to help a turtled Wave... (bob fills with water or some such) I would have never known this fact.
A tip sheet for a non cat sailing volunteer on Mark Boat that matches up to the boats on the course could really help matters.
I really think the Area Reps could get their regions members to pitch in and get this collective wisdom together in a usable fashion.
You just can't know-it-all not having experienced it, so reading tips from others would be the next best for sure. That is for safety of the driver, jumper as well as sailors being assisted.
I totally forgot the time in San Felipe when I pulled the rig off my 16 when upside down. The mast was bouncing on the bottom (50 knots off-shore storm / Chubasco hit Midwinters West one year). We couldn't right due to water in the mast. Taking the sail down and pulling the rig off was the last straw. Even a passing Panga couldn't help us. They could have if the rig was still on. After about 6 hours, we were hoisted onto a shrimp trawler by a crane.
After about 6 hours, we were hoisted onto a shrimp trawler by a crane.
There has simply GOT to be a better way to deal with XXx hitting the fan.. ... I don't need personal stories like this if I can avoid by learning from others ....
getting some wisdom with a quick read.... priceless!
that being said (you can't right a cat with no rig), is it better to just stay turtle with the rig intact (and possibly bouncing on the bottom), or just cut it loose and (if possible) retrieve/pack the stuff on the overturned trampoline for a tow back to land?
Jay
Re: 2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced
[Re: waterbug_wpb]
#257515 02/14/1302:19 PM02/14/1302:19 PM
That was the decision I had made... Bad one (I think) now I think back. The rig hitting the bottom was damaging my boat, but losing the rig prevented me from righting... and acting as a sea anchor which increased my drift. That further endangered my life, so....
Further... I had to go to the mast head (on our side) to release the halyard. I almost lost hold of the boat and only had a 3/16" line to hang onto as the boat surged in the swells. Scary s---.
Safety issue, All sailors that check out a Wave or Hobie 16 at Sail Sand Point in Seattle must first demonstrate their ability to capsize and right the boat prior to going sailing. No exceptions. Once on the list, they can then check out the boats in the future. This is also the thing that students in our classes do the first day.
Back on subject, the plans for the Alter Cup are going well. Several of us local sailors will be there to help you out on the water as needed.