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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway Rolf_Nilsen
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Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway | The only builder of Blades in Australia that I know about, excepting plywood boats, would be Marcus Towell (working with the Barrets I believe). But I dont think Marcus used Taipan foils. I would have contacted Marcus if you want foils built in Oz. Send me a PM if you need his contact info. Marcus is a resource! If you consider going from Taipain foils (if that is what you have ) to a different foil it might be worth checking if AHPC Viper foils could be installed. You would need some inserts and some epoxy work anway when going for different foils. Pics of your boat and foils would be helpful and interesting. | | | Re: Blade F16
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#258002 03/02/13 04:18 PM 03/02/13 04:18 PM | Scarecrow
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#258004 03/02/13 08:21 PM 03/02/13 08:21 PM |
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Posts: 5,525 | Really, I didn't know that. Are they asymetrical or off set from the centerline of the hulls?
Pete Pollard Blade 702
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#258006 03/03/13 07:14 AM 03/03/13 07:14 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | So where does the gybing come in?
Pete Pollard Blade 702
'When you have a lot of things to do, it's best to get your nap out of the way first.
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#258008 03/03/13 12:21 PM 03/03/13 12:21 PM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn Karl_Brogger
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | The boards twist in the trunk, the leading edge moves, the trailing edge is the pivot point.
I'm boatless.
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#258009 03/03/13 01:20 PM 03/03/13 01:20 PM |
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Posts: 5,525 | How does the performance compare to other boats you've sailed?
Pete Pollard Blade 702
'When you have a lot of things to do, it's best to get your nap out of the way first.
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#258010 03/03/13 04:03 PM 03/03/13 04:03 PM | Scarecrow
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#258986 04/16/13 04:05 PM 04/16/13 04:05 PM |
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Posts: 242 Brisveagas | Sailed an infusion Mk1 with gybing boards and loved it. Really felt good in flat water. If it gets a bit bumpy they can flop around in the case but not as much as you think. Didn't really understand when they started locking them off. Was just the fashion at the time I think.
Love the gybing boards on the viper. You can feel them click in and the thing takes off upwind. They never really move in the case even in bump so i guess AHPC managed to get it right.
Aido Viper 288
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#259015 04/17/13 03:36 PM 04/17/13 03:36 PM |
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Posts: 242 Brisveagas | The lateral pressure on the board holds it sideways. With the boat on the beach you can grab the board and move it in the case. Its a very tiny amount and would only change the angle of attack by 1 or 2 degrees maybe less. But its enough to make a difference. In flat water you can feel the board flop over as the boat accelerates from a stop or out of a tack. I feel that the boat really tends to travel towards whatever you are pointing it at with no or very little leeway. Thats what is supposed to do and i think it works.
Aido Viper 288
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#259036 04/18/13 11:11 AM 04/18/13 11:11 AM |
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 932 Solomon's Island, MD samc99us
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Posts: 932 Solomon's Island, MD | Nacra didn't get it right and the gybing system resulted in chewed up daggerboards. The lost speed wasn't noticed. I'm glad to hear AHPC got it right it makes sense, the 505's have had gybing boards for a long time.
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#259048 04/19/13 06:01 AM 04/19/13 06:01 AM |
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 932 Solomon's Island, MD samc99us
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Posts: 932 Solomon's Island, MD | Hmm, maybe the judges are different? Also, I believe the C2 and Viper have carbon trailing edges on the dagger board. Original AHPC Capricorn did not to my knowledge. That could have an impact on how the boards handle it...
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#259053 04/19/13 07:01 AM 04/19/13 07:01 AM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn Karl_Brogger
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | Same board as far I know. Just a fancy/pain in the butt to repair exposed trailing edge.
I'm boatless.
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