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Posts: 3,655 Portland, Maine | He died from one of the things that scares me the most about catamarans.. upside down they can drown you.
Apparently he got pinned under the boat.
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#259497 05/09/13 04:44 PM 05/09/13 04:44 PM |
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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | I thought these guys carried air? I remember seeing something that the Oracle guys were.
I'm boatless.
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#259498 05/09/13 04:49 PM 05/09/13 04:49 PM | Scarecrow
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#259499 05/09/13 04:51 PM 05/09/13 04:51 PM |
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Posts: 2,584 +31NL | I thought these guys carried air? I remember seeing something that the Oracle guys were.
Not much use when you are unconscious Looks like the whole boat imploded somehow. | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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#259507 05/10/13 06:02 AM 05/10/13 06:02 AM |
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | A report in Wired.com said:
Preliminary reports indicate Artemis’s boat didn’t capsize because the sailors were pushing too hard or made a mistake, as was the case with Team Oracle. The problem was with the boat itself, either faulty engineering or faulty construction. The boat simply broke apart under sail, folded, then flipped. The Artemis boat has had a history of cracking and problems with the carbon fiber used in the twin 'beams' — the two girders that lash the two narrow hulls together. The boat had been in and out of the shed numerous times in an attempt to correct those problems. Today, however, the forward beam — the girder in front of the sail — gave way during a practice run. The two hulls, no longer connected, began sailing in slightly different directions. This caused one hull to snap just forward of the aft beam, and the mast, held up by high-tension rigging connected to the front of the hulls, simply fell over. The boat began to cartwheel, ultimately trapping Simpson underneath and drowning him.
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#259509 05/10/13 06:06 AM 05/10/13 06:06 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | I wonder if there's any video of the actual pitch pole. From the article, Andrew was the tactician, which I guess would mean he would be at the back of the boat, probably wearing some type of tether or harness. If the boat went deep bows down, he'd be wayyy up in the air, either tossed from up high with the boat landing on him, or tied to the wrong side of the boat as it went upside down.
And as mentioned, he may have been unconscious when he went into the water. I guess we'll hear from the survivors as to what happened to Andrew, eventually.
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#259515 05/10/13 07:50 AM 05/10/13 07:50 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | horrible that this would have happened, but I guess with all this new stuff (technologies, materials, design) a catastrophic breakdown was bound to happen at some point.
Heck, even a "regular" capsize would put one hull almost 4 stories in the air. A fall from that (even on water) would likely cause serious injury.
Let's add about 40 knots of boatspeed to that equation and I shudder to think what "could" happen.
I recall something about "Drum of England" having a keel fall off and causing some injuries, and I'm sure I could bring up all kinds of fatalities due to boat breakdowns (mono and multi) if I searched, but it's still sad to read of tragedies like this..
What would really add insult to injury is if no recommendations are made to improve safety based on their investigation
Jay
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#259524 05/10/13 09:13 AM 05/10/13 09:13 AM |
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | After the Oracle capsize all the teams worked together to address and improve a multi-level safety and recovery protocol. You would guess it would address helmets, portable compressed air, chase boats with doctors, etc. But, I have yet to find a picture or video of the Artemis guys wearing spare air. Many pictures and video of the team in April where there is no spare air visible here, , here, here and here. Very obvious that Oracle is wearing them. Does anybody know for sure if Artemis was wearing spare air or any type of portable air system yesterday?
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