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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #263327
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Wind is up some.
245 at 18.1 kts, 19.0 kts peak


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spd mark 1: NZL 46.0 kts = 52.9 mph, USA 41.9 kts


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How was there no foul in race 2? There was contact, therefore there must be a foul. Funny how Jobson is saying that no one thought NZ was faster. I guess he doesn't read Catsailor.com.

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I don't think anyone out side of Oracle's team knew just how fast Oracle really was, since they weren't putting out their performance numbers, while we were able to see ETNZ's numbers in the LVT cup.

But now we know who's got the faster boat.

And I agree with you on the start of race 2, should have been a penalty to ETNZ, but even so, they won by a big enough margin that if they'd been penalized, I think they are fast enough to have come from behind to win that one anyway.

It's going to be a short series if Oracle can't squeeze more speed out of their boat.


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And what they should have done right after that cross was to tack, and push ETNZ out to the side boarder, and trap them, force them to follow Oracle back to the gate, in bad air.


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It's all over...

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #263339
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Maybe? Does Oracle still have a chance? I might be wrong, but I'm sensing blow out too.


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Not so quick. Let's see how it goes in lighter wind.


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Originally Posted by hobiephil
How was there no foul in race 2? There was contact, therefore there must be a foul. Funny how Jobson is saying that no one thought NZ was faster. I guess he doesn't read Catsailor.com.

There was no contact. Oracle got the hook on ETNZ and luffed - to the extent she could limited by RRS 15 (Acquiring Right of Way) and 16.1 (Changing Course). ETNZ immediately responded to the luff to the extent she could at low speed and nearly head to wind, so no foul.

It's a pretty standard match racing call (MR Call B3 in the ISAF Match Racing Call Book).

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Contact? 1:17:01 time mark


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You can't tell from the helicopter shot. The wing ump is visible, but the primary ump would be directly behind Oracle (if they were positioned properly) and would be able to see the gap between the boats. If they saw contact, they would have called for a penalty.

These boats don't touch without leaving marks on each other. There's bound to be a photo / video of ETNZ's port quarter after the incident - I didn't notice anything watching the race.

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