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#263349 09/07/13 07:21 PM 09/07/13 07:21 PM |
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | I agree w/ Matt. From the replay ( 1:17:07 is the closest they got) they did not touch, about a foot to spare.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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#263350 09/07/13 07:25 PM 09/07/13 07:25 PM |
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | The wing ump is visible, but the primary ump would be directly behind Oracle (if they were positioned properly) and would be able to see the gap between the boats.
The only umpire out there (wing or primary) was 70 feet from the contact, off the starboard transom of NZ. Impossible for the umpire in that boat to see contact. There was not another umpire boat anywhere in sight. Probably why they didn't rule was they couldn't see it, if it happened.
Philip USA #1006 | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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#263355 09/07/13 09:27 PM 09/07/13 09:27 PM |
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Posts: 3,969 | Based only on how ETNZ made everyone else look like amateurs to this point, I'll call for a sweep.
I'll happily be proven wrong later today.
Mike OK, maybe tomorrow????? Not if OR doesn't figure out how to stop ETNZ from their favorite play in the book, which has won them every race (starting at least as far back as the LV finals): start high and roll the competition all the way to a Mark 1 lead. The only reason Race 1 was as close as it was, was the unforced error in rounding the first gate. For some odd reason, ETNZ was really pinching and gave up their entire lead. They then got lucky that OR did such a poor job of match racing them up the rest of the beat, giving back the lead. In the Race 2 start, I didn't think there was contact, either, just from watching the video. And keep in mind, one of the first things you learn in judging is, photo and video evidence is hard to believe most times. Angles and depth of field can really cause things to look much different than they really are. I really hope this goes longer than 9 races, if for no other reason than I don't want the next 7 to be anywhere near as boring as Race 2... Mike
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#263356 09/07/13 09:47 PM 09/07/13 09:47 PM |
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | RACE 1 DATA Course: 5 Legs/9.71 nautical miles Elapsed Time: ETNZ – 23:30, OTUSA – 24:06 Delta: ETNZ +:36 Total Distance Sailed: ETNZ – 11.7 NM, OTUSA – 11.4 NM Average Speed: ETNZ – 30.07 knots (35 mph), OTUSA – 28.58 knots (33 mph) Top Speed: ETNZ – 43.54 knots (50 mph), OTUSA – 42.51 knots (49 mph) Windspeed: Average – 16 knots, Peak – 21 knots
RACE 2 DATA Course: 5 Legs/10.11 nautical miles Elapsed Time: ETNZ – 22:46, OTUSA – 23:38 Delta: ETNZ +:52 Total distance sailed: ETNZ – 11.3 NM, OTUSA – 11.3 NM Average Speed: ETNZ – 30.12 knots (35 mph), OTUSA – 28.92 knots (33 mph) Top Speed: ETNZ – 46 knots (53 mph), OTUSA – 42.87 knots (49 mph) Windspeed: Average – 16.6 knots, Peak – 19.5 knots
Philip USA #1006 | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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#263360 09/08/13 07:14 AM 09/08/13 07:14 AM |
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | I had to turn off the sound. How many time can they say "already 2 races down". Sounded like a skipping record. And the best part of the race(first part of the beat to weather)when all the passing takes place, THEY ARE ON COMMERCIAL!!!! UTube coverage was better. Amen. Wake up NBC. Take the commercials between races. YouTube saved it for me also, although at times it was lagged a little behind the NBC feed.
Philip USA #1006 | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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#263363 09/08/13 08:19 AM 09/08/13 08:19 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | The NBC Nit Wits went to commercial, and when they came back Oracle had passed! I was screaming at the TV! Finally saw it in the replay, but yeah, how about 30 minutes of "commercial free" you NBC Clowns!?
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#263364 09/08/13 08:23 AM 09/08/13 08:23 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | I think it was Ken Read who in the pre-race was chatting and said something like, "In a two boat race, the faster boat always wins."
As we saw, all ETNZ has to do is go straight, and let their boat speed carry them away. It's up to Oracle to get in front of them, and at least try to dump some bad wind on them, but in both starts, Jimmy tried to hook them and luff them into a foul. That might win the start, but won't work, long term.
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#263370 09/08/13 02:44 PM 09/08/13 02:44 PM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Race 3: Wow. Good start, great luff, Oracle in front by what, about 22 seconds?
Then they get passed going upwind...how do you let that happen?
Just wow.
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