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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: PTP] #263532
09/10/13 03:23 PM
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you think it's more the wing trim or the foils?

What I found most interesting is the noise levels on each boat. ENTZ has that really loud whistle/hum from the foils, and relatively quiet winch ratchets

OTUSA on the other hand, has the opposite.

And I wonder if they go through a set of mainsheet cordage every race day...

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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: Karl_Brogger] #263533
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
I can stream it on my phone, but can't watch it on the computer plugged into my tv. F-ing lame

You could use tethering to connect your laptop to your phone, possible with most Apple and Android phones.

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: waterbug_wpb] #263534
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
[quote=Timbo] I'll be outdoors, no internet, at a pool, watching a swim meet, in Lakeland (leaving here in about 30 minutes, won't
be home until after 8pm). [/

I'm at Gandy, no 4G, no internet, I can get on Catsailor w3G. Sounds like Oracle lost, then bailed on Race 2?
quote]

Which pool? I know them all. And yes, you'll get 4G in most places. The town is old, but they've all got I-phones and FB to keep up with their grandkids...


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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
I can stream it on my phone, but can't watch it on the computer plugged into my tv. F-ing lame

Use this add-on with Firefox.
http://www.stealthy.co/
Or . . .
Add this extension for Chrome.
Stealthy Chrome extension
If you are using Internet Explorer, go out to the shed and shoot yourself.


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #263536
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Sorry my above got stuck in the middle! My Darned Smart Phone is Retarded!


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Presser starts in 15 minutes. Will be interesting to hear what Jimmy has to say.


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They should make an honest statement --such as --We have an equal or better boat but have not had the time on it racing enough to sail it to its true potential--and tactics and strategy are much different in high speed cats --we are learning the hard way in that category as well

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So what happened in Race 5? Did ETNZ win the start and just walk away? Or was Oracle ahead at any time?


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WTF? No JK at the presser!


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Originally Posted by Timbo
So what happened in Race 5? Did ETNZ win the start and just walk away? Or was Oracle ahead at any time?

Oracle won the start and was leading to the first downwind leg, only to piss it away with bad tactics.

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Wow.

Thanks for the updates. I'll watch it when I get home.


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Getting a weird vibe about JK. I can imagine what Jimmy and Russell were discussing on the RIB. Wondering if JK will be on the boat Thursday. . .


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JK isn't all to blame though, the manoeuvre itself was executed very poorly.

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Tactics have been questionable more than a few times, in more than a few races.


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Presser replay


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Originally Posted by P.M.
Getting a weird vibe about JK. I can imagine what Jimmy and Russell were discussing on the RIB. Wondering if JK will be on the boat Thursday. . .


Oof...just watching the press conference now. I too have that feeling. I think JK is busy in the principle's office. I think they threw that card because they were infighting. Spitty dodges the question about replacing JK. http://youtu.be/kNnzMWMl9Pw?t=7m

And dodges it again: http://youtu.be/kNnzMWMl9Pw?t=13m54s


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Little more deflated in that press session...

Like I said before, I don't think speed is necessarily the issue - though, today they looked off the pace particularly upwind. With a fast as these machines are and how short the races are, you just can't be making mistakes like Oracle has been. You get punished.

Hats off to ETNZ. the crew has their ish together, they take few risks, don't put themselves in bad positions, and they have a hella fast boat.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrzcOEKiRiI

I just got to watch Race 5. Wow. Talk about a fk up!

Rick, you need to FedEx these clowns a copy of your Catamaran Racing for the 90's! It's obvious whom ever is calling for a downwind rounding at high speed, to roll right into a tack (and come to a dead stop!) has never raced a catamaran before!

I distinctly remember somewhere in your book, Randy Smyth said something like, "Speed is all that matters. Go as fast as you can, as long as you can!" Nowhere did it say, "If you are going fast and well ahead, bring the boat to a complete stop and wait for your opponent to catch up!"

Just wow! What a mess. They should have just stayed on starboard, rounded at high speed, kept on going fast, and waited for ETNZ to round, see which way they go, then either tack (SMOOTHLY, with Speed!) or carry on to the far left, and out of the adverse current!

Seemed like rookie mistakes.

Do you think JK has gotten LE's Sperry out of his butt yet?


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