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Posts: 3,655 Portland, Maine | I think the end of that USA Today story mentioned that.... Ironically, for all its technological prowess, the Oracle Team must pull off a string of wins to come from behind and retain the Cup, suggesting that most human elements and skill of this genteel sport are far from lost. | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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#264153 09/18/13 01:53 PM 09/18/13 01:53 PM |
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Posts: 79 CT | I think the end of that USA Today story mentioned that.... Ironically, for all its technological prowess, the Oracle Team must pull off a string of wins to come from behind and retain the Cup, suggesting that most human elements and skill of this genteel sport are far from lost. Good call. I mis-read it thinking they were too - referring to how all the sailing skill has been engineered out of the Cup... Thanks
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#264157 09/18/13 02:09 PM 09/18/13 02:09 PM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Re. the sailor's skill comments; in races 9+10, we saw just how important it is to win the start, and winning the start is 100% dependent on the sailor's skills.
So skill is still very much required to win, regardless of the technology, but I realize most non-sailors (and writers) have absolutely no idea of what's actually going on in the prestart, all they see is the speeds after the start.
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Posts: 3,969 | There have been plenty of human blunders, everything from boat handling (foiling when they don't want to, coming off foils at the wrong time, blown tacks, slow gybes, poor roundings, etc.) to bad tactics and strategy.
The technology just makes the boats so fast that the human mistakes can crush you. Of course, the same happens with the slow boats, but the distances aren't quite as magnified.
Jonson's best quote of the last few years (still not sure of he meant this as a compliment, BTW): "Match racing on steroids!"
EDOT: Relative to monohulls, the pre-starts have been pretty boring. No dial-ups, chasing each other through the spectator fleet, etc.
Mike
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#264162 09/18/13 02:43 PM 09/18/13 02:43 PM |
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | Oracle was slightly faster, just NZ ran a better race.
Philip USA #1006 | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | Oracle was slightly faster, just NZ ran a better race. I got in late. leg 3/5. I hope they have a miracle turn around. It has certainly not been the slaughter I thought it would be when all of this started.
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#264166 09/18/13 02:54 PM 09/18/13 02:54 PM |
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | If it wasn't for the shift or current at the end of leg 4 that would've changed everything.
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Philip USA #1006 | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | Drinking tea with plenty of honey and warming up....
I'm going to call this whole thing rigged if Oracle manages to pull it off. lol
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | Wow. Postponement just at the start.
Philip USA #1006 | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | No kidding! 5 seconds? If that?!
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