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Posts: 3,655 Portland, Maine | Anybody watch The Today Show this morning? Spithill and guys were interviewed after partying all night without sleep, and it showed. Good for them, wish I was there with them. Dude Falcone was grinning ear to ear and swaying back and forth. I bet his BAC right now is about 0.7 | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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#265269 09/26/13 07:45 AM 09/26/13 07:45 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Wow, that's going to change a lot of stuff going forward!
So, do we "Go Back" to 100% human power, no computers, or do we go to the next step, fully automated Drone Foiler racing?
Heck, you could sit on the dock with a joystick and never even get wet, and still win the America's Cup!
I hate to sound like the Old Fart Monohull Only proponants, but really, where do you draw the line on this stuff? All of these boats have computers on board (several). Personally, as long as the energy to move and adjust things comes directly from humans, I think it's OK. I might even support having the energy to power the computer systems to come from humans (or wind) as being OK but then you start asking questions about things like PDAs and digital compasses and the like. It's about man harnessing the wind and using muscle to shape the things that catch it that works for me. We have digital GPS units, speedo's, and other tactical units that tell us when to turn, if we're hitting our target speeds, and if we're heading in the right direction. Offshore racers have computerized steering devices and we use computers to look up the weather. Computers even control the final design shape of the boats, foils, sails, masts, wings...Look at the whole boat, it's the result of a computer. I can see how something like this stability control is something relatively new and that we're not familiar with but when you look at the bigger picture of high technology racing in other sports, I don't think it detracts from the fact that this thing is still pulled around the course by wind and shaped by muscle.
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Posts: 5,525 | Wow, that's going to change a lot of stuff going forward!
So, do we "Go Back" to 100% human power, no computers, or do we go to the next step, fully automated Drone Foiler racing?
Heck, you could sit on the dock with a joystick and never even get wet, and still win the America's Cup!
I hate to sound like the Old Fart Monohull Only proponants, but really, where do you draw the line on this stuff? At the check book, just like always. If you have the money why not? Hell, there's already a million boats I can't afford so what's one more?
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | Wow, that's going to change a lot of stuff going forward!
So, do we "Go Back" to 100% human power, no computers, or do we go to the next step, fully automated Drone Foiler racing?
Heck, you could sit on the dock with a joystick and never even get wet, and still win the America's Cup!
I hate to sound like the Old Fart Monohull Only proponants, but really, where do you draw the line on this stuff? Timbo, go win the cup and you can make it anything you want. That's the way it works. If you did win it, I envision young hot female flight crews serving Red Bull Rummy's in gimbal mounted tervis tumblers.
Philip USA #1006 | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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#265272 09/26/13 07:54 AM 09/26/13 07:54 AM |
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | Anybody watch The Today Show this morning? Spithill and guys were interviewed after partying all night without sleep, and it showed. Good for them, wish I was there with them. Dude Falcone was grinning ear to ear and swaying back and forth. I bet his BAC right now is about 0.7 They all looked like they were fighting the vertigo. Even Spithill sounded a bit raspy.
Philip USA #1006 | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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Posts: 3,969 | Philip, you're on the hook for posting a replay link for the Today Show bit!!! Can't tease us like that and just leave us hanging... Mike | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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#265279 09/26/13 09:00 AM 09/26/13 09:00 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Wow, that's going to change a lot of stuff going forward!
So, do we "Go Back" to 100% human power, no computers, or do we go to the next step, fully automated Drone Foiler racing?
Heck, you could sit on the dock with a joystick and never even get wet, and still win the America's Cup!
I hate to sound like the Old Fart Monohull Only proponants, but really, where do you draw the line on this stuff? Timbo, go win the cup and you can make it anything you want. That's the way it works. If you did win it, I envision young hot female flight crews serving Red Bull Rummy's in gimbal mounted tervis tumblers. I would have to have crew rules stipulating one dude (me) and 10 hotties, no doubt! I wonder which direction Larry will take it though? More high tech development? This morning on the news he said there was one challenger already talking to him about the next Cup, but he wouldn't say who, what, when or where. I'd like to see Richard Branson do it, with 10 hot Virgin Atlantic Flight Attendants as crew! http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en/the-virgin-experience/fitfoo/our-places/cabin-crew-tips.html
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#265284 09/26/13 09:10 AM 09/26/13 09:10 AM |
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | "Disclaimer: Matt Lauer is an idiot."
That's not exactly news... Matt Lauer and Todd Harris are traveling together and drive off a bridge and are trapped underwater . . . Nevermind, I'll get my coat.
Philip USA #1006 | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Awesome...thanks for the link. "A show of hands for who has had sleep since winning the cup yesterday"......{cricket, cricket...Ainsley wobbles side to side a little...and they all stare straight forward with glassy eyes as Spitty grins}. Classic.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | Awesome...thanks for the link. "A show of hands for who has had sleep since winning the cup yesterday"......{cricket, cricket...Ainsley wobbles side to side a little...and they all stare straight forward with glassy eyes as Spitty grins}. Classic. Jake, did you have a long night also? Where's Ainsley? You're right though, that was Classic.
Philip USA #1006 | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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#265293 09/26/13 09:56 AM 09/26/13 09:56 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Notice how Jimmy once again dodges the question, "What did you guys do to the boat to manage the comeback?" I've heard him asked that question 3 times, by 3 different people this morning, and each time he completely dodges it, so it must be something they are keeping "Top Secret", like a computer controlled foil trimming system or such.
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#265296 09/26/13 10:13 AM 09/26/13 10:13 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Okay, I've about finished my brain control beacon aimed at LE's head. My vision of the 35 AC
Shrink the AC45 down to container-fitting size (like the VX40), and put them on foils. One-design class for LV series in similar fashion to the way it ran this time (more than one boat per team, multiple locations/regattas, etc, windward/leeward courses, fleet and match racing points).
Teams wishing to enter LV/AC competition series contribute XX dollars to Partially fund the eventual defender's AC campaign
For the finals, Defender builds two identical boats (60 footer, wing/foil) and challenger gets to pick which one they wish to use for the AC series.
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