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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | What about Luna Rossa? Hear the podcast with Chris Draper here.
Philip USA #1006 | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | Oracle Team USA's Brad Webb talks about the cup. "So the hanging question is, what actually happened to flip a predictable defeat, into an unlikely success? The answer is, again, not a simple explanation, and despite what many may think, there was no silver bullet. The rumor of a super secret automatic board control system installed mid-regatta, couldn’t have been further from the truth. The potentially catastrophic nose-dive at the reach mark in race 19 disproves this claim. Due to the previous month’s events, we were under intense scrutiny from the measurers the entire time, and we remained transparent and legal throughout, even when things got desperate.
The turn-around was a result of small ideas from smart people, where nothing was discounted. A number of little tweaks to the wing and the boat were put into play and refined. The afterguard spent time poring over video and improved the way the boat was sailed, especially upwind. And everyone embraced the philosophy that we had nothing to lose by implementing a fresh perspective, while maintaining the aspects that still worked well."
Philip USA #1006 | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | It says something that the teams are coming back again...the true mark that "we may be onto something". What about Prada Luna Rossa? Any noise?
I hate to lose Ian Murray as Race Director...I think he's presided over the last three iterations. He will be one hell of a CEO for Australia, however. Good on 'em.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | If the next AC is sailed on 60 foot cats, remember where you heard it first. With fabric sails...no wings.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | If the next AC is sailed on 60 foot cats, remember where you heard it first. With fabric sails...no wings. Could they just use high-tech "fabric" over the wing in place of mylar and qualify?
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | If the next AC is sailed on 60 foot cats, remember where you heard it first. With fabric sails...no wings. Could they just use high-tech "fabric" over the wing in place of mylar and qualify? ? I'm waging that the rigid wings go away and we return to a more traditional mast and soft sail configuration. That's purely my conjecture...digest at your own risk.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | I would guess that if you're not a foiling boat, it wouldn't make much sense to use a rigid wing sail, since the efficiency and power generated wouldn't be as effectively harnessed?
Kind of like adding a jet engine to a bulldozer?
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Posts: 307 maui | ? I'm waging that the rigid wings go away and we return to a more traditional mast and soft sail configuration. That's purely my conjecture...digest at your own risk. [/quote]
shoots, what's wrong with those wealthy folks in the competition having to hire an extra 100 people to step their wing? The rich are getting richer. Spread some of that cash around. i'll take the other side of your conjecture. wings and full hydro foiling, and hopefully same on the world series trainers. edit; i believe there was an interview where a designer said that they wouldn't be able to foil thru a jibe with a regular main. i was wondering if you put a hinged boom with a control arm on a soft sail, would that make it so the boom wouldn't need to violently swing across? maybe speed up the jibe?
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | edit; i believe there was an interview where a designer said that they wouldn't be able to foil thru a jibe with a regular main.
Why not? I've done it countless times on a trifoiler. Can't imagine the AC35 going back to soft sails. My money is on the wing.
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