+1. All it takes is one wave at the wrong time/angle and you lose everything you've worked for over the last few minutes... Or worse (capsize/damage)

It can definitely be interesting....made more so by trying to get through it after the start gun has gone off. Kirk Newkirk is one of the best in this regard. As I understand it, during that Jensen Beach Worrell disaster, he sailed out through the surf successfully twice. I think they broke a rudder on the last sandbar and went back to fix it...went back out and sailed the leg. Loehmeyer is also an expert and showed us his skill during the Jupiter Beach mess during a Tybee 500. We were all exploding and he just went out and sailed out of the surf, turned left, and went to Cocoa like no biggy.

Chris Christensen was the "Beach Godfather." I bet he shoved more catamarans into Florida surf than the others combined.

During the NACRA 5.2 Nationals in Ft. Lauderdale, Chris pushed the entire fleet out with coaching every morning until one day the surf was waist high, and he left early to get out in the breeze and escape the coming carnage.

Roy Seaman pushed off and capsized imediately in front of the Lundquist brothers...so they went over. Since Dirk and Eric broke their mast, Seaman began ripping out the top three battens to replace his he had just broken.

Right after that Fred Young closed the beach and allowed no else out. Chris won the race with half the fleet, onshore.

When Chris got in, he immediately chased down Roland for a 'session.' Chris had been a wrestler in his younger days, and it was looking bad for Roland! No USYRU judge needed.

As they were about to face it off, I ran in between them and told them to stop the yelling. "Guys, we can solve this by offering two throwouts for the regatta..." could have saved Roland an ambulance ride. It did save the regatta.

No one messed with Chris or Pauline...for that matter. That event was the final nationals under the single trap class rule. By Fall, we were breaking out with double traps.

The "kid" told me not to read this when I got home but I did, and the "kid" was right if any of you self proclaimed badasses wanna have a pecker slinging mileage pissfest I'll be more than happy to cut the miles on my resume' in half and still probably double what you've got. The first day was a supreme asskicker, enough said. On a final note I sure hope I don't sound like this when I'm posting from home watching a race. So much misinformation from the speculation it's funny. Out and done.

It probably would have gone better for Sam if he hadn't started with an insult to everyone that was enjoying watching and discussing the limited information we had on the race...

Tad's comment knocking down Sam's credibility when it came to judging the wind because he sailed on the Chesapeake was before Sam's comment about armchair sailors, I'm also not sure he was directing that comment at anyone besides Tad.
I've had my disagreements with Sam in the past online, he makes some bold statements that he would never make in person. But in this case I think you all jumped down his throats prematurely and may have gone a bit too far.
It's hard with lack of tone online.
Kind of like my comment about dyneema on Facebook Jake , I think you took my informational tone as something else.
To quote the great Todd Hart (scary) from Facebook a couple weekend ago, there's no winning arguments online.

Oh jesus F'ing Christ.

You people must have grinded too much sand in the nether regions to sense a good joke when you see it. I told Sam this too on the beach when he called Jake "a retard" that my joke was as much about myself than it was about Sam considering that I grew up sailing on the Chesapeake Bay and have done more sailing on that body of water than any others combined.

Everyone needs to get the f*ck over themselves and stop trying to act like they're all insulted and pissed off at one another.

nice. For the record, I saw the humor in Tad's remark.

Well, that just illustrates the danger of posting private jokes on a public forum (I've done it too). It is amazing how easy it can be to offend people without even trying sometimes...

Mike

As a happy aside to this whole sad thread...

Todd can no longer hold my rum debt over my head. It has been paid... with interest :P

Pretty sure Todd wants his rum... paid in full...

IF he owes you anything... well... the clock will start ticking on his payback.... .

The interest may need to be re-calculated with all the passing time, inflation, and such, so you may not be in the clear yet. The timing was absolutely perfect though, and it could not have been any better.It was good getting to see you for the brief time that you got to hang out, but you were supposed to have at least one rum drink from the payoff with me, excuse accepted though.

Jake, Sam is a bit of a technical super freak (I suspect) and often that group doesn't have the ability to deliver a contrary message with the same silky inoffensiveness that Mr. Schneider and I seem to have. What can I say it's a gift.

For the record I'm a Sam Carter fan he's good people, that THart guy... still a tool :-)

Which is why I only have one joke: What do you call a boomerang that won't come back?

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Joke of the day, I was at the boat consignment store the other day talking with the owner when a family pulled in in their minivan and began looking around. After a few minutes I said, do you need to go tend to your customers? he said, those arent' customers, those are "whistling gophers". My puzzled look apparently made him expain, he said, those people are the type that say "what do those things gofur? And then I tell them the price and they whistle(like its a lot of money type of whistle)

An a$$hole not a tool, get it right...but he pays his debts...FAST!
Sam is 100% technical engineer, 'nuff said. He might not step out from under a falling rock, but he could tell you everything about it including it's composition,history, speed and trajectory...before it squashed him.

p.s. Ding, you're not really gonna use THAT keyboard to type on here, are ya?

Best part of the trip was watching Tad pay off his bet and having that payment promptly delivered to me! Best trophy EVER!

The morning of third day of the FL300 as I walked to the boat I remember thinking "this has got to be dumbest thing I've ever done and you guys have some kind of brain dysfunction." But before the KPRR weekend was out I was already making plans and closing deals for next year assuming Chuck, Warren and Craig are up for another go.

Yes Todd I plan to use this keyboard, it's fine!

Proud member of the "a$$hole on the beach" club but that Jake Domingo guy has nothing on us he takes a$$hole to an all new level.

Yep. Did you get that feeling at KPRR that that weekend event, on that little tiny piece of ocean, had nothing to throw at you that you couldn't handle? You caught it. I'll see you next year.

The morning of the third day I was thinking the same Ding, but the forecast gave me a shred of hope and it delivered .Two semi miserable days on the water followed by Two absolutely beautiful days on the water, hard to top (11 minutes faster would have topped it though).