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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | I know if I were Larry, and I wanted to keep the cup, I'd make it just as expensive as last time, to eliminate as much competition as possible. One of the ways you make it expensive is....
New Rules, New Boats, Wing Sails!
All the while, the only bad rap on the last cup was, it was too expensive, and nobody showed up (competitor wise) for the Challenger Finals. This new rule doesn't seem to fix that problem. If fact, it makes the previously built AC 72's and their wings obsolete, so the teams that already had a boat, now have to spend just as much money as last time, designing and building new boats/wings, nearly as big so there's not much cost savings there.
If you're Larry, and you want to keep the cup out of reach, it's a brilliant move. Your PR say, "Hey, we made it more affordable so more teams can compete." but in reality, you've put it further out of reach for anyone but the bazzillionairs.
If he really wanted to make it more competitive, he'd do it on the 45's, that's where the really close competition is, but then he might lose the cup too.
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | the only bad rap on the last cup was, it was too expensive, and nobody showed up (competitor wise) Are you talking about the last AC or all of the ones prior to that? I think that the 12 meter rule was about the only time the AC was deemed "affordable" and that was using a very liberal definition of the term... My limited recollection of the history of the Cup demonstrates a lot of the cutting edge of design and materials (which couldn't have been cheap at the time)... Marconi rig, winged keels, composite construction, laminated sails, etc. why is this current iteration supposed to be different? Bring on the Flux Capacitors!
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#273164 06/12/14 02:07 AM 06/12/14 02:07 AM |
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Posts: 2,584 +31NL | San Francisco officially out of America's Cup running San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee got an unwelcome letter late Tuesday night: As rumored, the city was ruled out of hosting the 2017 America's Cup sailing races.
Russell Coutts, director of the America's Cup Event Authority, e-mailed the mayor confirming news reports that San Francisco hadn't made the short list to host the 35th sailing regatta. San Diego, Chicago and Bermuda are still in the running.
"Given the tight timeline and demands from prospective teams to confirm the final venue, it has been necessary to continue reducing the shortlist of candidate cities," Coutts wrote. "We have therefore taken the difficult decision to no longer consider San Francisco as a possible candidate to host AC35." http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/San-Francisco-officially-out-of-America-s-Cup-5545195.php | | | Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed
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#273174 06/12/14 07:09 AM 06/12/14 07:09 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Browsing through the surnames, I would say that the Italians won't have any problem with the nationality requirement!
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#273176 06/12/14 09:07 AM 06/12/14 09:07 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | SF is out? Fabulous...
Mike Perhaps it's just Larry's negotiating tactics, looking for SFO to step up and supply mo'money?
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#273178 06/12/14 10:23 AM 06/12/14 10:23 AM |
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Posts: 774 Greenville SC | Think we would see some 45 action in SF?
Bermuda sounds interesting, but do they have the port and infrastructure for all of this?
What does that $3million entry cover? Does that get you through the ac45 series?
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#273179 06/12/14 10:26 AM 06/12/14 10:26 AM |
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,490 On the Water P.M. OP
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Posts: 2,490 On the Water | Good stuff in these interviews. Jimmy doesn't let up on Dalton. Definitely worth your time. "Oracle Team USA skipper Jimmy Spithill has launched an incredible attack on Grant Dalton, questioning whether he should still be running Team New Zealand.
Dalton's criticised the protocols for the next America's Cup and in particular the fact a $US2 million entry fee is required before the venue is confirmed.
Spithill has told Newstalk ZB Dalton is continually negative about the event and it might be time for someone else to take over.
"Well he's been in the role for over a decade now and certainly I think when you look into anything, whether it's business or when you look into sporting teams, I think the most important thing you judge a team on are results."
Spithill has named Brad Butterworth, Murray Jones, Simon Daubney, Mike Drummond, Warwick Fleury, all former America's Cup winners, as candidates to replace Dalton."
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