| Slow in light wind #273896 07/14/14 10:49 AM 07/14/14 10:49 AM |
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Posts: 57 Minneapolis | Hello, all I am relatively new to racing. I just got my Nacra F16. I find that when racing in light wind I am extremely slow. I keep thinking I am over sheeting and over pointing, but I am not so sure of that any more. I'd really appreciate some tips on how to improve boat speed. (I am sitting far forward, I allow the mast to rotate most of the way out) I am sure there is more I can do.
thanks for the advice.
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#273909 07/14/14 09:15 PM 07/14/14 09:15 PM | Scarecrow
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Unregistered | Don't let your rotation out upwind. Going upwind in light wind is all about efficiency. Read the first part of this this and set your mast so that it is working properly. Letting out the rotation is just adding drag. With a modern wing mast, rotation is the last place you should look (after cunningham and traveller etc) to changing power it should always be set so the luff tell tails are working. Once moving in really light wind your apparent wind will be a long way forward so if anything you need less rotation not more. Also don't be afraid to actively adjust this setting in the light. When you come out of a tack and have all but stopped the apparent wind will be at or above 45 degrees, as the boat accelerates it will swing forward to around 20-25 degrees so your mast setting will need to be changed to suit. | | | Re: Slow in light wind
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Posts: 57 Minneapolis | Thanks for the info, I cant wait to try it out. I'll let you know.
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Posts: 57 Minneapolis | Karl, I am planning on going to broken rudder. possibly one other event.
are you coming out to MYC again any time soon?
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Posts: 57 Minneapolis | Karl, I am planning on going to broken rudder. possibly one other event.
are you coming out to MYC again any time soon?
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | It's usually so it opens the leech. Otherwise it's hooking severely at the top. You really aren't flattening it much because mast rotation will remain the same, and you aren't sheeting very hard.
I'll probably be up there at some point, no plans to store my boat up there this summer though
I'm boatless.
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Posts: 57 Minneapolis | Thanks again everyone, What about diamond wires. where should the tension be light, medium and heavy wind. ( I am on the heaver side of the scale)
thx DF
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | I adjust the diamonds a lot of times between races. If I feel under powered I loosen them, if I was maxing out the downhaul a lot I'll add tension.
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I'm boatless.
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | I find that when racing in light wind I am extremely slow. When you say "Light Wind", can you give a range (windspeed or Beaufort)? If memory serves, there was some discussion about laminar vs. turbulent flow breaking at about 8mph and the difference in AWA between surface and top of mast. Sail settings and efficiency changed based on those parameters
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Posts: 57 Minneapolis | Jay, I would say 7 mph and under.
thx DF
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Posts: 57 Minneapolis | Hello all, I have had a chance to try a few of the suggestions out. I think I was a bit faster, but am still very slow. I think I need to keep getting out there an working on it.
Thanks for the input.
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Where are you putting your weight on the boat? In light air, I get as far forward as possible, to keep the sterns from dragging.
And DON'T PINCH!
And keep the jib flowing, open the slot between the jib leach and backside of the main, so you're not choking off the flow over the backside of the main.
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Posts: 57 Minneapolis | Timbo, thanks.... I thought when sailing solo, one was not supposed to use the jib. So that is what I have been doing. Can I add it with out taking much of a hit?
thx DF
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Well...per class rules, you are not supposed to use the jib if you are racing Uni. I use it all the time when I'm out on my lake alone, just practicing, but sailing in light air without it really, really, sucks! You miss it more there than at any other time, no doubt.
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