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Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: ThunderMuffin] #277897
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Originally Posted by ThunderMuffin
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Oracle Team USA's boat arrested by US Marshalls

"The vessel was in three containers and the US Marshals went into the Oracle Compound at Pier 80 at 9.00 am this morning and big MAC trucks were arriving to pick up containers. US Marshall Christian Hanson had called Oracle's lawyer at 8.20 am from the Federal Building in San Francisco and told him that no containers with the vessel were to leave Pier 80 otherwise Oracle would be in contempt of the court's order.

However as US Marshall Christian Hanson and his Deputy approached Pier 80 two containers were being removed by truck from Pier 80 at some speed. The truck licence numbers and the container numbers were all noted and a local contractor had taken a photo of the first truck and the numbers on the side of the shipping container."


This is beyond ridiculous.

Agreed. Even more ridiculous is Spooner wanting $13,000/month more for housing in Bermuda. contract spat

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Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: ThunderMuffin] #277898
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Originally Posted by ThunderMuffin
Originally Posted by P.M.
Oracle Team USA's boat arrested by US Marshalls

"The vessel was in three containers and the US Marshals went into the Oracle Compound at Pier 80 at 9.00 am this morning and big MAC trucks were arriving to pick up containers. US Marshall Christian Hanson had called Oracle's lawyer at 8.20 am from the Federal Building in San Francisco and told him that no containers with the vessel were to leave Pier 80 otherwise Oracle would be in contempt of the court's order.

However as US Marshall Christian Hanson and his Deputy approached Pier 80 two containers were being removed by truck from Pier 80 at some speed. The truck licence numbers and the container numbers were all noted and a local contractor had taken a photo of the first truck and the numbers on the side of the shipping container."


This is beyond ridiculous.


It is kind of silly. That kind of law was written for a completely different type of situation. Besides, I thought that is was already ruled on that it didn't apply here and that the guy was paid for the time he actually spent with the team. The boat couldn't be "arrested" for a case involving damages - only wages not paid that were earned while on the vessel.

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it's keeping the focus on the circus that is AC, so there's that...

we're eating this s*t up because there's nothing else to look at...

But yes, it is beyond ridiculous. Kind of like a slow motion train wreck... you just can't turn away...

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On the other hand he planned his life around having this job for a set time. He signed a contract and as far as we know lived up to it. He might have turned down other offers to do this. Not enough info to really make a decision on this.

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So Spooner was making $25k a month, or $300k a year to grind a pedestal.

He wanted a raise to $38k a month. Holy hell thats 50% increase!!! and HE'S the one that is getting the rough end of the contract negotiations?

http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-sailors-salary-300-000-if-he-works-for-larry-ellison-1426013584
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enjoy this epic artistic vid

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Oracle says "so long, thanks for all the fish" to San Francisco...
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Recurring theme of reducing costs

“The existing operational costs of teams is much too high with a boat like the AC62. We discussed making this change early last year at a Competitors meeting in London but at that stage only ORACLE TEAM USA and Emirates Team New Zealand were in favor of using a smaller boat. But now that the teams have seen these new boats in action there is a clear majority of competitors who support the idea. I’d like to be able to say we have unanimous support from all the teams but that is not the case.”

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yeah I won't be too pleased if they decide to downgrade to AC45's on foils. Even though the racing will still be great, the spectacle of it all will definitely suffer.

If you didn't get to see the AC72's in person then you really can't understand just how badass they were.
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I'm glad they pointed out that payroll was probably the highest portion of the overall cost... So yeah, switching to smaller/fewer boats (and less crew, shoreside support team, etc) would probably dramatically reduce costs...

But I will miss the crazy billionaire vs. crazy billionaire, no holds barred spend-fest on technology.


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