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South Carolina | Boys...we've got work to do.... From Sailing Anarchy: Subject to ratification by the WSSRC, the overall sailing speed record has been beaten last weekend by sailboarder Finian Maynard after a 46.82 knots run in the sailing speed channel of Les Saintes Maries de la mer (France). Wild ![[Linked Image]](http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe/2004/images/Net%20MaynardFinian3334.jpg)
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Bradenton, FL | beautiful picture, I wonder how hard the wind was blowing?
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South Carolina | The wind was between 35 and 45 knots and I would imagine that they are wearing weight jackets.
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South Carolina | Yeah - under that stretch shirt too! However, I think that ditch they're running in in France is only four feet deep max. Here's a link to an awesome video from that same location a couple of weeks ago. The first guy shown in the video is the new record holder (this video is not from the record run). http://www.mastersofspeed.com/filez/video/canal30march.mpg
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South Carolina | 96mb? Whoaa...didn't know it was that large. I'm surprised our IT MPs hadn't come to visit me yet :-)
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Looking for a Job, I got credi... | Full write-up here It was a touch windier than comment above suggest : "What a fantastic but grueling two days of rugged and psychotic conditions that actually went unsailed a lot of the time because the wind was blowing too hard for the equipment that we all had. 5.0’s were huge just to give an idea of what we were facing and that is what the smallest sails were for the most part. In fact, a modern 4.0-4.4 would have been the preferable size for just about everyone as we got hit by afternoon stretches on both afternoons whereby there was a solid 50-knots gusting to 60 for literally two hours at a time.
Be jesus... it was nuts and the lid literally flew off the top with the wind gods. Unfortunately the angle we were asking for was too much today (130-140) as big chop developed on the course making it very difficult to go fast.
Survival was the name of the game sometimes but breaking the record further requires calculated control, power and finesse, which is simply impossible to achieve in unison with the Mistral. The wind is far too irregular and twitchy to be super fast, fast enough for 50. We are looking for the big SE for that but it is clear that all the sailors were pretty happy with what we got and simply making it through the experience without injury!
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Cape Town, South Africa | Yellow Pages has fallen !!! The record is for the fastest craft on water. (yes, Ice is also water  ) but they have their own record category. Anyone who has fallen off a shortboard at 25 knots will know how INSANE doing the same thing at almost double the speed, wearing 8kg of water ballast instead of a lifejacket. They don`t fall off - they have BAD ACCIDENTS. Hats off to Dave White (Son of Reg) who sailed a PRODUCTION BOARD at over 44. I want one !!! | | | Re: New Speed Sailing Record
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Looking for a Job, I got credi... | Yellow Pages has fallen !!! The record is for the fastest craft on water. (yes, Ice is also water ) but they have their own record category. Anyone who has fallen off a shortboard at 25 knots will know how INSANE doing the same thing at almost double the speed, wearing 8kg of water ballast instead of a lifejacket. They don`t fall off - they have BAD ACCIDENTS. Hats off to Dave White (Son of Reg) who sailed a PRODUCTION BOARD at over 44. I want one !!! Indeed, and he's Robert's Brother too - Top bloke and built like a brick outhouse
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Cape Town, South Africa | Hi Simon, "Indeed, and he's Robert's Brother too - Top bloke and built like a brick outhouse " To do speedsailing at this level you have to weigh in at about 100kg, and then still wear weightjackets !!! I can`t believe the size sails these guys hold down in 40 knots and more, I`m down to a 4,7sqm sail in 25knots, they are setting records with 5sqm or more, in 45 knot winds. Dave`s record is in my mind the most impressive, just 2 knots shy of the real deal on a production board is unbelievable. Sorry if I`m raving about these acchievements, but I`ve waited 11 years just to be able to say that sailboards are the fastest wind-powered water-borne craft once again !!! Cheers Steve | | | Re: New Speed Sailing Record
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Colorado | I`ve waited 11 years just to be able to say that sailboards are the fastest wind-powered water-borne craft It was just a matter of time. Yellow Pages landed its record really quickly, but the specialty-built craft have proven unworthy of the task since then. Sailboards, on the other hand, have been chipping away at the 500-meter record ever since and have almost certainly broken it, but outside of the strict record-breaking format that the sanctioning body requires. The true grail of speed, 50 knots, is well within reach of the current crew of boardsailors. In fact, with the conditions they had, I'm surprised that it didn't fall. I hate to generalize, but a catamaran will never go that fast, not with a crew in control of it.
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South Carolina | Yeah, but if you could statistically look at the number of attempts and the number of vessels attempting to break the record, windsurfers certainly has a huge leg up compared to specialty vehicles like Yellow Pages. Statistically speaking, I would say that the specialty vehicles have a shot at getting the record back....YP set the record 11 years ago in a 25knot breeze. Their new boat is designed to be able to handle slightly more wind. I think we'll see a comeback from these guys now that the heat is on.
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Colorado | Actually, both sides are constantly working to break the record and have made neumerous attempts all over the world. The key is finding the right weather. For windsurfers, the wind has to crank and the water needs to be flat - a nautical oxymoron. It also must blow at just right direction without much of a shift - another tall order. Purpose-built crafts need less wind, but most of them have serious control issues. I just did a story for Outside Mag. about a British outfit called Speedrocket. They have been working on the design for several years and are confident that they can break 50 knots with their contraption. The skipper has some solid credentials with multihulls and the design looks good on paper, but they haven't gotten it going very fast in real life. Both sides are really enthusiastic and confident that their vehicle is the only way to fly, so to speak. Like I said: Time will tell.
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South Carolina | On one hand you have the sailboards that are everyday equipment (well....sort of) sailed in a purpose built narrow ditch with flat water out in conditions that not many would venture out in. On the other hand you have the specialty built crafts that are masters of efficiency and able to nearly double wind speed and are sailing thus far on natural, but ideal, bodies of water. Technology against brawn...sort of?
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Cape Town, South Africa | Hi guys,
I think the windsurfing guys have done it simply because they have spent more time refining technique than equipment. I could be wrong, but the boards & sails haven`t changed much in the last 2 years. Small refinements, not quantum leaps.
The specialised craft guys have to spend a lot of time & money just designing and building the thing, and have to do lots of computer predictions on how fast the thing SHOULD go, before they even get it on the water.
I`m sure one of them will get the record back, as has been said before, they are sailing at double windspeed or more, so can attempt records in lighter wind which should mean less breakdowns. The advantage the board guys have here is that the equipment seldom breaks, it`s the sailors that do if they fall !
To me, there`s a greater level of personal acchievement for the guy who is hanging on at the ragged edge, rather than sitting in a **** with a windscreen and some levers to fiddle with. No discredit meant to the specialised craft sailors, for it takes special skills to drive those things too.
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