Tracy is where I got the price. Further Jim Boyer quoted me virtually the same cost personally, when he visited us at West River. I included the +/- to account for the exchange rate fluctuation. Eitherway, the A2 at 21K+ is not going to work. In addition, check the A-class website, you can get a 2004 Marstrom (used 3 times by Goran) for $15,500 delivered.

Guys,

So what would you pay for a A Cat? Assuming its autoclaved and as stong as a Marstrom and has a A2 style hull - how much would you be willing to pay?

Bill

I think that 15-18K, for the platform and mast is about right. I'd still love to know where the quote for 21K came from.

Personaly,
I think 20 K is entirely reasonable to pay for an A cat. If you don't want to pay that much feel free to pay much less initialy and buy into a different class.
I think a more important question is what are the yearly costs of owning an A cat. From my experiance, owning a Nacra 6.0 was much more expensive per year to maintain in good shape and race then my A cat. In fact this last year was the cheapest year of sailing I have ever done( except for my old dart 18) on a per day of sailing basis.

What I would suggest is that you sail an A class Catamaran. If after sailing one, you are willing to go back to your old boat, don't buy one.

Personaly, I am done with overweight, poorly built, multihulls mass produced with bad steering and cheep fittings.

Think Ice

Eric Anderson
A Class US 28
DN Iceyacht 5193

Another thing to keep in mind...depreciation. Well made boats with long competitive lives will hold their values better. I'm sure the better made Acats keep their edige for a long time...but of course the nature of this game is to be innovative and there is a development cycle issue that needs to be factored in. Same will be true for the F18 though.

Mike.

Don't totally agree with this.

Yes Marstrom's are well made and so is the Nacra F18. But, is the old Inter 18 holding it's value well. Answer is NO. Simply the Inter 18 is no longer a competitive boat (as with older Tigers as another example) and so they have lost value quickly - still a fine boat. If (and I mean if) another builder (or Goran) comes up with a new development for the A class, his current boats will no longer hold their value.

This is the price you have to pay by being part of a development class, or restricted development class or formula based rule - Things will change and cash will have to be spent.

I'm damn glad I bought my used A Cat when I did. Talk about appreciation!! Because of the cost of new boats there is a scarcity of used boats coming available and they are bringing good money. The biggest gripe I hear about the A2 is the inability to get info about the boat. Sad marketing.

Cris,

What was up with your deal on the Hobie Tiger? You went out of town. Unless it was a bankrupcy or business liquidation KO should of been able to match the deal you got. Sales and Use tax might have been a motivating factor but you need to register the boat in the state and pay the appropriate Use Tax at that time.

Interesting compliance issue I read in a state tax journal was how the Texas Comptroller office is reviewing out of state boat purchaser's declared purchase prices against a data base. If the value is out of line then the transaction is further reviewed.

"In addition, check the A-class website, you can get a 2004 Marstrom (used 3 times by Goran) for $15,500 delivered."
(with new sail and dolly)

Both of Goran's boats are now sold

This IS kind of what I was referring to...the development cycle in formula classes will cause accelerated depreciation as technology advances. But if things are relatively stable for awhile, the better made boats will hold their values longer than the low quality jobs. For Tornado class, the current competitive life of a Marstrom is 7+ years. In the past, polyester-based Tboats could go 2-4 years tops at the high end of the fleet. A 10 year old Marstom Tboat will sell for roughly half it's original price. Can the same be said for 10 year old Hobie 18's, NA 6.0's, I20's, Acats ,or (in the future) F18's?

Without meaning to hijack this thread, and completely off-topic!

What was the price for a Marstrøm T in 1994?
The market in europe suffers a lack for 90's Marstrøm T's these days. I'm trying to source a 90's Marstrøm T for some friends, wanting to race one-design, but I can't find any at a reasonable price