| Re: Hobie vs. Nacra, which to buy?? Help!
[Re: utahsailor]
#54757 08/10/05 12:38 AM 08/10/05 12:38 AM |
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 72 Montreal , QC CatRon
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Posts: 72 Montreal , QC | Pitchpoling, pitchpoling. Rake your mast back as conservatively recommended in the Hobie 16 Tuning Guide and you'll find your pitchpoling problem becomes a near non-issue. I sail my H16 single handed almost exclusively in 15-25 knt winds and I haven't PP'd in ages - and I push it pretty hard (eg wear a wake boarder helmut on the crazy days) You'll find that adding foot holders/supports, including a pair as far aft as possible for those screaming reaches, makes big wind sailing the H16 a new experience. You become "one with the boat" if you will. You'll see, try it. I sail Lake Champlain often and a neighbour has a Nacra 5.2. I beat him everytime time! And how can you beat the H16 in the waves? PS I replaced my wire rigging last year and today the 6 inch section of forestay between the tang and the jib halyard block snapped in 12 knts wind on a close reach. Surprisingly, the rig collapse rather gently over the tramp and I was able to easily remove sails and clean up the rigging. I was 3 miles out - paddled for 1/2 hour then was towed the rest. Mmmmmmm
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| | | Re: Hobie vs. Nacra, which to buy?? Help!
[Re: Buccaneer]
#54759 08/10/05 08:31 AM 08/10/05 08:31 AM |
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 306 St. Louis, MO hobienick
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Posts: 306 St. Louis, MO | It depends on what you want to do with the boat. If you want to race, then buy the one that has the best racing fleet in your area. If you want to just sail for fun, buy the boat you feel most comfortable with.
I taught myself to sail from scratch on a Hobie 16. I pitchpoled one towards the end of my first season on the water. I never did it again over the next four years I owned the boat. You learn what you can and cannot do and sail her accordingly. Every design has it's idiosyncracies (sp?) and you will learn them.
Plus, isn't part of the allure of sailing that it takes skill and you are constantly learning. It's not like a power boat where you turn a key and all of a sudden you can drive a boat.
You will have fun with either boat you decide to purchase. Good luck and let us know what you decide.
Nick
Current Boat Looking for one
Previous Boats '84 H16 '82 H18 Magnum '74 Pearson 30 St. Louis, MO
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[Re: HobieZealot]
#54762 08/10/05 10:33 AM 08/10/05 10:33 AM |
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,479 Thailand Buccaneer
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Posts: 1,479 Thailand | One thing that is nice about the Hobie 16 is that a tired fat guy can get back on it after he falls off. The deck is only inches off the water. Some other boats are way up there. That's a good point. Once you have it righted you still have to pull yourself on board With the H16 it's a two step process. Therefore theoretically if you are over weight or not really fit the H16 (hull being so close to the water) would actually be a hell of a lot safer in a capsize.
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[Re: jollyrodgers]
#54764 08/10/05 06:53 PM 08/10/05 06:53 PM |
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 473 Panama City, Florida Redtwin
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Posts: 473 Panama City, Florida | I have never had a problem with pp'ing a H16 solo, but with two adults and medium air, you had better be on guard. On the 5.2, even with and adult crew, I sometimes have to tell them to move forward to push the hulls down a little. I actually like the bar going through the middle. It makes a good place to put your foot for leverage. I lifted a hull too high once on the H16 and almost capsized because I went sliding down the tramp. The bar is very convenient and despite its name, doesn't get in the way of your knees during tacks. Side note... I'm relatively small so I can duck the boom and tack pretty easily. The H16 tramp is much less cluttered, but once you trim the sails and are moving along, there is plenty of room on the Nacra... again, I am only 150#/ 5'9". -Rob V. Panama City Nacra 5.2 Rob V.
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