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[Re: Jamie Diamond]
#56927 09/12/05 12:01 PM 09/12/05 12:01 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California John Williams
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | Jamie - I realize the situation may have looked like that from the cheap seats (seats up front where you have to crane your neck uncomfortably), but regardless, there was some sweet tetrahedron lovemaking going on that day...
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[Re: John Williams]
#56928 09/12/05 03:10 PM 09/12/05 03:10 PM |
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... scooby_simon Hull Flying, Snow Sliding.... |
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | my understanding is, that if the boat hails for room at a mark or obstruction, regardless of entitlement you must give it to them, you can not push them the wrong side of the mark, even if it doesn't cause a collision. Yes it is; however I would be trying much harder if damage might result. You would have a stronger case for proving the barging if you can say "he came in so late I could not give him room fast enough, this is the only reason (s)he hit the (nice soft inflatable) mark...."
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[Re: malgray]
#56931 09/13/05 02:20 PM 09/13/05 02:20 PM |
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... scooby_simon Hull Flying, Snow Sliding.... |
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | Scott, At a downwind finish, when two boats on opposite gybes are shooting for the pin end of the line, the stb gybe gybe boat must give roonm for the port boat to gybe and round the mark. (Tactical manoeuver used when the pin end is known to be favoured) Assuming the STBD boat is on the rhumb line. Surely at the time it looks like this might be a close one the STB boat heats up a little and then puts the Port boat about. Could be an interesting one if the Post boat manages to get above the stbd and then the stbd then drops down deep again..... Risky stuff but might be important on a close series....
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[Re: malgray]
#56934 09/13/05 07:10 PM 09/13/05 07:10 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Scott, At a downwind finish, when two boats on opposite gybes are shooting for the pin end of the line, the stb gybe gybe boat must give roonm for the port boat to gybe and round the mark. (Tactical manoeuver used when the pin end is known to be favoured) Somebody clarify this for me...I didn't think a finish line pin was treated like a mark on the course or an obstruction. 18 ROUNDING AND PASSING MARKS AND OBSTRUCTIONS In rule 18, room is room for an inside boat to round or pass between an outside boat and a mark or obstruction, including room to tack or gybe when either is a normal part of the manoeuvre.
18.1 When This Rule Applies: Rule 18 applies when boats are about to round or pass a mark they are required to leave on the same side, or an obstruction on the same side, until they have passed it. However, it does not apply
(a) at a starting mark surrounded by navigable water or at its anchor line from the time the boats are approaching them to start until they have passed them, or
(b) while the boats are on opposite tacks, either on a beat to windward or when the proper course for one of them, but not both, to round or pass the mark or obstruction is to tack.
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#56935 09/13/05 08:22 PM 09/13/05 08:22 PM |
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 943 East Gippsland, Australia Tim_Mozzie OP
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Posts: 943 East Gippsland, Australia | Any object required to be left on a specified side is a mark (definition of a mark). So the finish line pin is definitely a mark. Rule 18 applies.
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#56936 09/16/05 09:09 PM 09/16/05 09:09 PM |
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