My dream boats would be

1, My new one that john and I are still planning (and waiting for the 17 to sell) - Single handed; wider than an A class with a little more mainsail and a Kite
2, ~20 feet long ~10 feet wide ~M20 size sails and shape
3, Volvo 40
4, Big ocean going racing cat/tri
5, Big crusing boat like "Le Grand Bleu"
6, Big ocean going Yacht from the Wally stable


Don't want much

Forgot I had a web site

Yeah we will update soon when we get some pics of the new boat and finalise sponnsor deals for the new season. Have a cool mpeg promo of our old T that I'd like to get on it to. Will have to work on a new one for the F-18 also.

It said "dream boat" not "dream boat with dream ground crew". My God Man. Those boats have got to be a PIA to keep together and even I will only go so far.

how about the cat in Thomas Crown Affair...
or...
ignoring the whole crappy plot issue, and with a different paint job,
the tri in Waterworld

The cat in the Thomas crown affair was (according to the IMDB was a D class :



The Tri in Waterworld was a re-painted (old) 60 footer.

OKAY, OKAY, This is getting way out of hand......
Maybe I should have been clearer? (Although this has been fun )

What if I said, "What will be your NEXT boat?"

I am trying to find out what you guys think is A) the racing cat you would like and B) the all-around fun /well-built family cat to have. When you get into the 200 foot mega-yacht I knew further explanation of what I was looking for was necessary.

Wouter, that was VERY interesting.... Thanks for really putting some thought into it. That's what I was hoping for!

Greg

Simon, I must read trough my collection of old "Multihulls" magazines to back up this, but I think the boats racing in "Thomas Crown" was Formula 40's (or Prosail 40's).

The tri in Waterworld was actually two identical boats, one rigged with the strange rotating rig and the other one with the traditional rig. In both cases, the full crew was sailing the boat from below deck!
Both boats was ordered brand new from France, and assembled in Hawaii before they was made to look 200 years old. The design was very hot and fast when delivered.

I remember "Multihulls" ran articles about both movies. Still have the issues in the bookshelf, but finding both would take some time..

next boat? A2 or NA F18.
Seems like the F18 class is the way to go these days.

"Thomas Crown" was on the TV here fairly recently and I really don't think they were F40's; these boats were not big enough. Also these boats sere using long hangling rack's for extra wrighting moment and I never saw a F40's with these over here (Full pelt had Hobie comfort type racks at the back for a while) but brosnan was on the end of a long "ladder rack" when they tipped it in....

Your present boat is not only faster its only 25-35 lbs heavier holds more and it just comes down to you to prove it through practice! F20 old school just won't go away.......N6.0 ,M6.0 ,H20 ,Hurricane 5.9, Supercat 20, P19 and so on,all these boats were and are dream boats . To spend 35,000 euros on an Marstrom 20 would be a nightmare not a dream. I am glad that boat is not the norm.

It seems this debate has already happened but the web seems to support the Formula 40 theory:
www.morrellimelvin.com/whiplashinfo.html
207.36.71.187/caribbean-catamarans/Avalon/crewprofile.htm
www.mailorderfoods.com/messages/messages/5/7673.html
www.marineteam.net

The use of "D-Type" rather than "D-Class" in the IMDB trivia makes one slightly suspicious. Nice D-Class pictures here.

They are Formula 40's. Here is the white one, and I THINK this is the other.

The boat in the Thomas Crown Affair was the Formula 40 Whiplashed and was skippered in the movie by Randy Smith. The stunt man on the rack also broke his arm during the fall.

The rack was added for cinematographic effect; that bone breaker was never part of the F40 class.

Wouter

Stephen,

Is Randy Smith any relation to Randy Smyth?

The most important features of a good hull are long length and low weight to reduce wave drag, so I think the M20 is going the right way, Just make it more durable, I would use some of the new composite materials that are being developed in the auto industry, to increase impact strength without gaining weight or losing stiffness.

Gareth

Off course not mate. Don't be silly. Their last names are spelt totaly different

I saw that boat (Paul Allen's) in New Orleans, LA. We were about to embark on our first cruise. While approaching the ships I was trying to figure which one was ours. I assumed our ship was the "smaller one" but realized later it wasn't a cruise ship after all. Damn that thing is big.

So my dream boat(s) would also be that but with a couple of A-cats and a couple of double handers i.e. F18s. You've got to have two each so you can set up your own racing.

Clayton
S27

after seeing the mocks this weekend at the annapolis boat show, I'm going to say, the Sig45 is my new dream boat.

The stunt man that fell off the rack now owns the boat! The boat has been racing in New England.