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Re: Dream Boat? [Re: Barry] #58710
10/10/05 10:11 AM
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Simi Valley, CA
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Just for info's sake(doesn't really contribute here) but the other boat was skippered by Roy Seaman.


Josh Fint Prindle 19 "Accident Prone" Moro Bay Sailing
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Re: Dream Boat? [Re: jfint] #58711
10/10/05 12:19 PM
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Blade F16.

And the money to buy three friends F16's to race with


John H16, H14
Re: Dream Boat? [Re: _flatlander_] #58712
10/10/05 12:44 PM
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Simi Valley, CA
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Flatlander has the right Idea, my dream boat would involve having about 4 and the nearby folks to race with.


Josh Fint Prindle 19 "Accident Prone" Moro Bay Sailing
Re: Dream Boat? [Re: jfint] #58713
10/10/05 12:51 PM
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Orange.

/thread.

Re: Dream Boat? [Re: MauganN20] #58714
10/10/05 03:32 PM
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toronto, canada
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Orange.

/thread.

id take orange 2 then. thanx.

Re: Dream Boat? [Re: basket.case] #58715
10/10/05 04:24 PM
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Looking for a Job, I got credi...
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Looking for a Job, I got credi...
OK, looks like I'm wrong about the TG. Was only quoting IMDB.



F16 - GBR 553 - SOLD

I also talk sport here
Re: Dream Boat? [Re: bullswan] #58716
10/10/05 06:17 PM
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After having raced the Reynolds 33 this year I can suggest it as a "dream boat" for those of you mentioning larger boats and for those wanting faster boats. It is both AND it would also make one heck of a party boat as the tramp goes from the rear beam to the forward beam; around 27 feet or so. It also requires a "dream budget"! That is a big reason why my favorite boat often is whichever OPB I am on at the moment! Another one I raced this summer that is highly recommended is an F-25C. Very fast, responsive, yet very stable, and easily trailerable. For a more affordable option, I can attest that the Boyer Mark IV A cat is a dream to sail and handle ashore by myself.

Note: OPB = Other People's Boats

Re: Dream Boat? [Re: MauganN20] #58717
10/11/05 07:45 AM
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I agree: the SIG45 really hit me at the boat show.


NO compromise on performance (75 feet mast!), sleek, no deck pod but still decent accomodations. Looks gorgeous. You can fly a hull with this boat and reach 25 knots. Wonderfull design by VPLP which is a reference. Price at 600k, which is a lot but nothing compared to the other cats where you could not find anything decent under 1 Million. Ugly.
This is the trend: big fat boats, with huge comfort features, heavy, slow and sometimes not even looking capable to go outside the marina. In other words: big RV on the water. Otherwise classic (and beautifull) monohulls with a big price tag.

I could not find any boat 20-30 feet, sleek and affordable which would have shown that sailing is a popular thing.

Re: Dream Boat? [Re: Mike Fahle] #58718
10/11/05 08:22 AM
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South Louisiana, USA
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Mike, Mike, Mike!

OPB is what you keep in your fridge and offer to your friends when they come over! OPB = other peoples beer. It ends up there after you have a party and everyone brings beer and leaves whats left. Of course you have to not drink it all beforehand. OPB is also what you have when you go to the party without bringing your own.

Talk about hijacking a thread!

Clayton

No warranty when adding a spi to an A-cat? [Re: Wouter] #58719
10/11/05 12:25 PM
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North Europe, Sweden, Uppsala
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I just need to get one thing correct before I continue with the dream boat thread.

Someone mentioned that you loose your warranty when adding a spi to an A-cat. I haven't seen that note on any A-cat builder site! Actually I haven't seen ANY kind of rules for what you can or can't do with your A-cat and still have a valid warranty. Please check facts before stating such a thing!

The Marstrom A-cat is ok to use with spi since they sell such a boat already (M18). There is NO extra reinforcement on the M18 compared with the standard A-cat. The only thing you should check is that you get the angles correct between the bows and the end of the spi pole.

I don't have a dream boat, I look for a dream combination! Right now I have an A-cat with spi and a Hobie 16. Small boats means small problems, and the A-cat with spi is really tough to beat around the cans.

/hakan

Re: No warranty when adding a spi to an A-cat? [Re: Hakan Frojdh] #58720
10/11/05 12:52 PM
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OK- Hakan, you have us very interested again! What is the secret for angles between your spin pole supports and the bows?
I saw that the Marstrom A-cat of Bret Moss has quite long carbon fiber supports for his spin pole. I made the supports for my A-cat spinpole from my wife's aluminum ski poles, so they may seem too short: My fiberglass pole bends alarmingly but nothing has broken- yet!


Dacarls:
A-class USA 196, USA 21, H18, H16
"Nothing that's any good works by itself. You got to make the damn thing work"- Thomas Edison
Re: No warranty when adding a spi to an A-cat? [Re: dacarls] #58721
10/11/05 01:08 PM
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St Petersburg FL
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In all seriousness my dream boat would be a brand new fresh off the line Marstrom built Tornado, with all the bells and whistles. OH MAN! talk about pure utopia.
Heres my dream lineup
All Marstrom Built:
Tornado
M20
A Cat with spin
Then of course:
Inter 20

My Boat - Blade F16 <--bottom of the list because I already own one.



This thread rocked!!!

Re: No warranty when adding a spi to an A-cat? [Re: dacarls] #58722
10/11/05 01:21 PM
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North Europe, Sweden, Uppsala
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The secret is how you load the bows and the main beam.

A pole that is extremely low will load the bows a lot when an "up force" is applied to the pole end and. A pole that is higher will create less loads on the bows.
Rule: Don't have the pole too low!

A pole that is way longer than the distance between the main beam and the bow will create a lot of compression of the pole, and that force will end up on the main beam. Rule: Don't use too long pole!

I use a 4.3 meter pole with 1.3 meter long support rods.

Check link for pictures:
http://www.webbo.dyndns.org/a-cat_sailing/spi/

/hakan

Re: No warranty when adding a spi to an A-cat? [Re: Robi] #58723
10/11/05 01:24 PM
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Northfield,NH USA
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In all seriousness my dream boat would be a brand new fresh off the line Marstrom built Tornado, with all the bells and whistles. OH MAN! talk about pure utopia.
Heres my dream lineup
All Marstrom Built:
Tornado
M20
A Cat with spin
Then of course:
Inter 20

My Boat - Blade F16 <--bottom of the list because I already own one.



This thread rocked!!!



Robi,
IF you didn't already own the Blade, where would you put it in that list? Just because you already have the Blade doesn't mean it can't be your DREAM BOAT. My thread, my rules

I loved this thread too! I agree with Brian Mc. I like your Blade.

Greg


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Re: No warranty when adding a spi to an A-cat? [Re: bullswan] #58724
10/11/05 01:32 PM
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West coast of Norway
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In all seriousness my dream boat would be a brand new fresh off the line Marstrom built Tornado, with all the bells and whistles. OH MAN! talk about pure utopia.




As the owner of a Marstrøm T (not a new one, a '94 model) I can ensure you that it's a sweet ride. If you get the opportunity, you should go out on one as helmsman.

If you are sent to Norway for some coast-guard training (what do I know, perhaps you do?) you are always welcome to go out for a spin. You will even get to helm!

Re: No warranty when adding a spi to an A-cat? [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #58725
10/11/05 03:01 PM
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The Blade and F16 is a great design lets not leed everyone astray as it being genuine giant killer's in uncorrected time. As long as you have people sailing the big boats ,20's you will never have an accurate measurement on the F16 or F18 . The handicap really has had so little time to develope.Cpt.Teneille.let er'rip! Except for money incentives from the big three>>>> Hobie ,Performance and let it be a toss up !

Re: Dream Boat? [Re: bullswan] #58726
10/11/05 05:35 PM
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toronto, canada
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you know what, i really really like what i am sailing right now. a modified tomcat 6.2 that i built.

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Re: Dream Boat? [Re: basket.case] #58727
10/11/05 11:02 PM
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Westport, Ma. U.S.A.
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And that is EXTREMELY COOL!

Re: No warranty when adding a spi to an A-cat? [Re: bullswan] #58728
10/11/05 11:15 PM
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Westport, Ma. U.S.A.
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Greg, You already know my "retirement" boat is that mono you posted pics of,( Sakonnet 23, designed by Joel White) that's for when I'm too old to sail a Blade! To be honest though, I doubt I'll ever own another cat. I am still in love with my Hobie 17 Super Sport, and I really love the H 16, 18, and 20 too. I know they are old designs, but aside from being heavy, they provide Heavenly thrills! I'm still longing to try a boat with a chute! Hopefully next season I'll either get out on Tedd's Inter 17R or John Smith's I 20, or Wally Machado's H 18! Great friends great boats! What a life?! Or as Tedd Duvarney so often says when we're at "church": "Life is good!"

Re: No warranty when adding a spi to an A-cat? [Re: Robi] #58729
10/11/05 11:22 PM
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Western Australia
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An open 60..
Why so I could do the Sydney to Hobart and be in Hobart in time for lunch next day!!..

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