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#58752 10/16/05 02:25 AM 10/16/05 02:25 AM |
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Posts: 473 Panama City, Florida | How does the ama switch sides? I read somewhere that they call it shunting. Is that what that means?
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#58753 10/16/05 05:49 PM 10/16/05 05:49 PM |
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay Luiz
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | Proas shunt reversing stem and stern - there is one rudder in each. I believe their best configuration is with the cabin (weight) to windward and the sails in the mainhull. Search for "harry proa".
Proas may be self righting (the one in the picture is). Conceptually the proa is lighter than any other multihull configuration. Unfortunately, proas need fore and aft hull simetry for shunting. They would be the best multihull configuration choice if it wasn't for this detail.
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#58755 10/17/05 09:00 AM 10/17/05 09:00 AM |
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Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway | Luiz, Jezerro is probably selfrighting to 75-80 degrees, but it can surely go over even with the pod. If it goes over, it's just as other multihulls, very stable (I suppose this was what you meant?) There has been some argument over wether the pod is a positive or a negative. Russ obviously likes it, but others (who are into proas) think it may induce capsize instead of prevent it. I dont know but have most belief in the Harry variety.. Cool boats, but I have yet to see any in a long distance race results like Brisbane-Gladstone where it could have proven it's performance claims. | | | Re: Dream Boat?
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#58756 10/18/05 07:57 AM 10/18/05 07:57 AM |
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | When proas are designed with that cabin protuberance to leeward and with a sealed (high flotation) mast, the idea is to make them self righting. But you are right, upside down it is even more stable.
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#58757 10/18/05 05:59 PM 10/18/05 05:59 PM |
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | My dream boat is Luiz's reality boat...the Catri foil-assisted trimaran...
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#58758 10/18/05 06:26 PM 10/18/05 06:26 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Swan 601 or a Swan 46 or pretty much any Swan in the Med.
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#58759 10/18/05 08:07 PM 10/18/05 08:07 PM |
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Posts: 2,074 Northfield,NH USA | Swan 601 or a Swan 46 or pretty much any Swan in the Med. I'm curious. Why the Med? Greg
The nice part about being a pessimist is that you are constantly being either proven right or pleasantly surprised. - George Will "It's not that liberals aren't smart, it's just that so much of what they know isn't so" -Ronald Reagan | | | Re: Dream Boat?
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#58761 10/18/05 08:47 PM 10/18/05 08:47 PM |
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Posts: 57 | as an alternate: same kind of boat but a lot less expensive (actually half the price 300k vs 600k) it is all about minimalism and no compromise on performance. http://www.brestrider.com/home.htm
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#58763 10/19/05 06:46 AM 10/19/05 06:46 AM |
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Posts: 57 | I like the lines of the Sig45 much better. Me too. I knew the Brestrider before the SIG45 came out. The SIG45 is definitely a better design. There are a lot of interesting innovations in it. And it looks fantatic. I would easily see a small steering pod/**** inserted on the center rear of the platform with all the instrumentation and commands. | | | Re: Dream Boat?
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#58764 10/19/05 06:52 AM 10/19/05 06:52 AM |
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL waterbug_wpb
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Swan 601 or a Swan 46 or pretty much any Swan in the Med. I'm curious. Why the Med? Greg Two words: neked girls....
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#58765 10/19/05 07:09 AM 10/19/05 07:09 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Swan 601 or a Swan 46 or pretty much any Swan in the Med. I'm curious. Why the Med? Greg Two words: neked girls.... Almost always a big plus!
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#58766 10/19/05 08:53 AM 10/19/05 08:53 AM |
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | Unfortunately, I still share your dream But you can avoid my mistake and buy a boat ready to sail, doing no business in connection with the designer. He is broken and never finished delivering the plans. A real nightmare. Luiz
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#58767 10/19/05 09:25 AM 10/19/05 09:25 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Swan 601 or a Swan 46 or pretty much any Swan in the Med. I'm curious. Why the Med? Greg The weather, food and of course the women.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#58769 10/19/05 03:43 PM 10/19/05 03:43 PM |
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Posts: 2,074 Northfield,NH USA | Swan 601 or a Swan 46 or pretty much any Swan in the Med. I'm curious. Why the Med? Greg Two words: neked girls.... Almost always a big plus! Okay. Well. Hmmm. I guess......... Sign me up! But just so I'm clear....are these neked girls aboard or just swimmin' around the boat? And just to be completely AMERICAN..... Do they have hairy armpits (cause that does nothing for me and the deal is off)?
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