The first photos of the new BIMARE 4X Formula 18 are on line at:

http://hpbimg.bimare.net/bimare/viewtopic.php?t=23

Most of them have been purposely edited in low definition on the very dark side of the colour spectrum.
However expecially pic no. 5, 6 an 7 give an idea of the hull shape. What do you think about it?

Ugly.

It has the general shape of a catamaran hull, alright.

Whats the idea with the black-out and and low res ? You are not seriously thinking that you're protecting some top secret design features. are you ? Besides, looks more like this object in the picture is covered with filler (see the patches) to smooth out the hull. Well, you have to get up to weight somehow. Also the hull looks surprisingly alot like a XJ hull (A-cat) when looking at the sterns. In fact I can't really tell from any picture wether it is actually a new hull with enough volume for an F18 or just a solarized XJ hull. It also looks rather narrow on the deck line to me, as well as having narrow sterns. And why is the left hull blacked out in pic 5 ? In pic 4 you can see this left hull better (now in the background) Looks wider at the deck and more volumious in the sterns. It even has pintles on its sterns and it is definately not a Jav-2 or Jav-16 hull. In the other pics the big 4-X logo is covering it up mostly. Look alot like a capricorn F18 hull actually. Humm, would that mean .... ?

Anyway if the hull in the foreground is the one we are talking about then that boat it is still some way from completion. It looks like the design has made it off the drawing board and the very first hull (without a deck, note the between the beams) is under construction.

Boy am I feeling sarcastic today. Although that "mission impossible" feel to the provided pictures didn't really help in getting over this mood.

I mean, COME ON ! Just show us the normal pictures or don't show us anything.

Wouter

The proof that it is actually a new hull with enough volume for a F18 is that it does not fit the Javelin 2 cradles!

Sherlock Holmes

They aren't blacked out - the photos have been color-inverted (they're negatives).

Two clicks in PhotoShop and:


Like Mary said. Ugly. And unfinished.

C'mon Wout - didja just get your computer yesterday?

Or it is (more) proof that the Jav-2 hull doesn't have enough volume !

Besides, any meaningfull proof of suffient volume is to be found on the water during actual testing and racing in an F18 fleet.

You will find that that is elementary, my Dear Watson

Wouter

Hey Matt,

Please invert back that black blot in the general shape of a hull that is on the left side of this picture :





That I call blacked-out !

Also notice how the same hull is removed from vision in some of the other pictures by a surprisingly large X-4 logo

example :

I did - and it's not just blurred out (I could tease that out in PhotoShop) - it's erased. Shhhhhh! It's a secret!

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Thanks John,

I'm quite sure now. That hull in the background is most probably a Capricorn F18 hull.

Interesting.

Wouter

Compliments Messieur Hercule Poirot (alias Wouter).
Then you are Belgian and not Dutch!

They look nicer than my 5.2. Also, that's a nice looking facility in the background. Are those A2 hulls?

-Rob V.

That would be monsieur Poirot as there is only one of me.

("Messieurs" is only used when simultaniously adressing multiple gentlemen)

And despire my grasp of the French language I'm neither French, Belgian, Swiss or Canadian.

Wouter

WHAT is with the negative pictures? Someone's photoshop license should be revoked.

Looks like they have tried to obfuscate them for some reason. I dont understand why tough.. But it's fun to see that more manufacturers enter the F-18 scene. Competition is good (to a certain degree).

Wouter: Why canadian??

A fair few Canadian's speak French !

Where are the Belgian sailors on this forum anyways?? Am I the only one representing our Kingdom between all the Dutchies, Frenchies and other bigger neighbours? Where are you all, countrymates?

Or I do not understand or I feel a big sad to see so much agressivity and negative words. I'm not very old it this forum but I can already see that if you are not in the mould... then you better be carefull when providing information... "Domage".

Catfan, if the Bimare F18 will see the daylight and become a great boat, then you had a good idea to post these pictures... otherwise you made a terrible mistake (at least in this forum).

Hope objectivity and friendliness is also part of this forum,

Jr (Jean-Richard Minardi from H2O-Sensations in Geneva - Switzerland).

Now I hope that every person who are making critisims are at least Top builder or World champion in Regatta.

Relax - who made fun of the boat? We only made fun of the fact that Bimare releases these "negative image" processing on all the "top secret" looking photos they release. All that is silly and makes it look like they're trying to hide something. Add to that that there is some other hull (on a wheeled dolly I might add) that they didn't want in the pictures but didn't take the effort to wheel out of the room is comical.

Nobody made fun of the hull shape or the fact that it is under construction - we all love to see build pics. Wouter made some harsh comment about how you can't expect to jump into F18 out of the box with a new boat and do well...while there might be some validity to that it was one person. It's terrific that yet another manufacturer has jumped into F18.