I forgot

17) Wouter apologists - Yeah he may be annoying but at least he's getting things done!!

Dude, the whole point of my post was in jest.

Wake up and shake yer funny bone!

"Dude, the whole point of my post was in jest.

Wake up and shake yer funny bone!"

LOL...MauganH17...LOL my funny bones is fine...I took your post as intended...LOL...

You just got me thinking of how he "appeared" to be six years ago...and how far he has come...What a positive force he has become to the International sailing community today...I think it's remarkable growth...and should be acknowledge.

Best Regards,
Seeker

no growth or participaction problem up here in the frozen North on a mid-sized lake.

We have youth, womens skippers , racing and non racing acivties.

Not enough weekends to pack the stuff and the sailors in.

Check it out

fleet 204.com

looks like some refugees.. is elian in there somewhere?

I'll say it again....that can't be fast.

Given the wind, it's probably as fast as anything else.

Hey Jake can you photo shop a nice "jaws" size fin in that picture?...LOL

Regards,
Seeker

I didn't have much time...

Hey Ron,

Probably I'm one of the Mystere's your talking about.

We have a 5.5 Xl at PCYC. Anyway, touch base.

I have all 4 kids involved, and this year is going

to be a good for racing.

Regards

Steve

Awesome

Thanks Jake

Back to The Original Thread...While the future may not hold the huge regattas of the past, there is great evidence of a future for cats in our midst right now: Tad and Trey of Team Velocity; Boog and Charlie; Sean McQuilken(?): Todd Riccardi(?); and them yutes from Fleet 204! These guys have the torch and it's blazing! They are all very good sailors! I know there are not a lot of the next generation coming around, but for those that do, the Force is strong.

Catamaran sailing is alive and kicking up here in Pultneyville. We are sailing about 3 times a week during the summer. We have a beach where we can store our boats with the masts up, which is a key for me.

We are trying to revive the racing program this year as there are a few of us that want to start. We will be holding one of only two open class regattas in New York State (that I know of). I will get back to you guys when the details are finalized.

I hate to keep harping on it, but the Hobie Class Association is killing us racing wise. We have lost boats, which used to be into the open division racing circuit to monohulls. Most still are members, they just sail from the docks not the beach.

Matt

How is the HCA killing you?

Sounds like much of the sailing in your area is recreational sailing. Nothing wrong with that and not HCA's doing.

You want to revive racing and have an open regatta? Great, I wish you luck. But, exactly how is HCA preventing you from doing this?

The HCA bashing does get old after a while.

Good luck with your regatta

John

I would also like to hear how HCA is killing you.
The Ontario Open (Rochester) has been getting around 50 boats for a number of years now and will continue to do so.

The HCA will have a Youth Nationals this year.
They have a youth grant program.
They will run multiple Guest Expert Programs.
They will have a Womens Nationals.
They will run Women on the Water (WOW)progams this year.
They will run 8 Nationals this year.
The H16 event will have over 60 boats.
The Hotline is a fantastic newsletter(thanks Matt B.)
There are over 1000 HCA members.

There are a lot of hard working peole that put in many hours to make the above items happen.

So again I would like an explination of how this hurts sailing.

I think the hobie class eliminated the open class in div 16 with the hope that non hobie racers would be forced to buy hobies. What we have seen is that instead of buying hobies our catamaran racers are going to monohulls.

Remember the hobie 17 sport is open class.

Matt

Guys:

If it weren't for the open class I wouldn't be able to race my Hobie 17 much in Div 6. Most of the time there are not enough of us to make class. That is the main reason I bought the Pentex squaretop and reacher and still keep the stock Hobie sail to race class.

Doug Snell
Hobie 17
Soon to be Nacra A2
www.tcdyc.com

Hey Pat -

Don't take the assertion personally - that is the knee-jerk reaction that is unwarranted. What Matt is saying, and what some others are saying as well, is that the HCA stance is not working for everyone. You're aware that there are still a bunch of sailors outside 204, right? Take it easy.

This is my final post about the HCA. I am frustrated with the current state. It is out there. I just want what is best for the catamaran community.

Sorry if I hurt people’s feelings.

Matt

John, I am well aware that things are differant all over and would remind everyone that the HCA was told by the IHCA that all regattas had to be Hobie only. This was not initiated by the HCA. I didn't agree with how things were handled and presented to the sailors. There is a lot of history that many new sailors are not aware of and form opinions of the HCA without knowing anything about what happened and the people involved. The Madcatter is coming up, as soon as the water gets soft again, and I would love to see a huge F18 fleet competing, but we don't have that option if we want to remain a points regatta. There has been a changing of the gaurd at the IHCA and HCA level and things may change again. In short, I would say that everyone should promote what they are doing for sailing and not put down another orginization.
I would also like to invite the Sharks to come play.
Attached: Me and the wife sailing with the sharks

In regards to Div. 16, in Ontario we have 6 new Nacra F18s, so some people weren't happy with the edict.