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#80551 07/19/06 06:49 AM 07/19/06 06:49 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Dare I ask what in the world are you talking about?
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#80554 07/19/06 07:42 AM 07/19/06 07:42 AM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 894 Branford, CT rhodysail
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Posts: 894 Branford, CT | If there is something specific you have a problem with, and you are truly looking for a solution, it would be much more effective if you contacted your Division Chair and the Hobie Class Chair. All of the contact information is on the HCA website.
Even an anonymous letter to your Division and the HCA Chair will accomplish more than ranting on this forum.
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#80558 07/19/06 08:40 AM 07/19/06 08:40 AM |
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 393 Syracuse,N.Y pbisesi
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Posts: 393 Syracuse,N.Y | First you need to ID yourself. I ran the 2004 16's in Syracuse and nothing was done without my approval.
Pat Bisesi
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#80561 07/19/06 09:06 AM 07/19/06 09:06 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 123 Syracuse, NY deq204
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Posts: 123 Syracuse, NY | So, is he going to be around forever, or is the class going to get rid of him for someone that listens?
Talk to any of the past champions over the past 10 years. Can you find anyone of them that support him? The world class has lost respect for him. He isn't even invited to the world events.
The class is in trouble and there is no one that he has mentored to replace him as his retirement is near.
Pat, from what I heard, it was done with your approval, but there was significant displeasure, and only done with 2 hours notice leaving your fleet to scramble to get more boats and staff. Nice piece of team work that he did. An entire year of planning thrown out the window. Would you want to go through that again? After thorough analysis of your last statement, you got not one fact correct. Thank you for playing, we have great parting gifts, including the home version of our fishing game. I'm done with this thread.
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#80563 07/19/06 09:28 AM 07/19/06 09:28 AM |
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Posts: 393 Syracuse,N.Y | Per the contract that we sign when running a North American Championship with HCA the fleet will be split when there are more than 70 boats entered into gold and silver fleets after a round robin format for 3 days. We knew this a year in advance and that is what was done. What happened was we chose to give the silver fleet their own course allowing both fleets more races. We had the man power, boats and a second qualified PRO on site to do this.
There are at least two other PRO's that have been training with Paul for more than 5 years.
I know I didn't run a perfect event and I'm sure there are things that Paul might like to change. It's easy to be a back seat driver. Step up and volunteer to head a committe, then you will have a new view on how difficult it is to please everyone.
The class is doing very well and I would bet we will approach the 70 boat mark for this years H16 NAC again.
Pat Bisesi
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#80566 07/19/06 09:59 AM 07/19/06 09:59 AM |
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Posts: 393 Syracuse,N.Y | Mark is certainly one of the qualified people. Last years H14,H16,H17 NAC's didn't seem to have any RC issues that I'm aware of.
Last weekend in Buffalo the RC was an absolute genius. 7 races 85F 18knots of steady wind on a big body of water. The same person has been criticized in the past when it was cold , the wind was light and shifty on a lake with a lot of shoals. Being in charge ain't easy. When your judged on rumors it becomes that much more difficult.
Pat Bisesi
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#80568 07/19/06 10:16 AM 07/19/06 10:16 AM |
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Posts: 393 Syracuse,N.Y | I would say that all of the people that have responded have all been in a leadership position and don't like someone publically bashing someone else that has put in many, many years of volunteer service trying to improve our class association.
I(with our fleet) have worked with Paul at the H14's, H16 womens, H16 Youth, H16 open, H17's along with an Alter Cup.
He can be stubborn, almost as much as me. We have always been able to put on a great event for the sailors even though there may have been some private spirited discussions behind closed doors. They should stay there.
Pat Bisesi
Fleet 204
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#80569 07/19/06 10:42 AM 07/19/06 10:42 AM |
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,884 Detroit, MI mbounds
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Posts: 1,884 Detroit, MI | I have to agree with Pat.
Paul is a personal friend of mine. He can be stubborn, demanding and a pain in the butt sometimes. However, I attribute the excellence and progressiveness of our class' race management to his unwillingness to compromise the class' standards. How many other classes were running courses with gates ten years ago?
I don't think he feels "threatened" by anybody. I have seen him go out of his way to accomodate sailors at an event - only to have them turn on him when they don't even realize what has been done. He takes a lot of crap for stuff beyond his control.
I don't think anybody would argue (except maybe Sam Evans) that PU runs nearly perfect courses that take exactly the amount of time he intends them to.
I'm looking forward to sailing in the PU run H-17 / Tiger NA's two weeks from now. I'll know that the start line will be appropriately favored, the marks will be where they should be, and each race will last just about 45 minutes - no matter what the wind strength.
In the evenings, I'll enjoy sharing sailing stories and a bottle of excellent wine with my friend, whom I haven't seen in nearly a year. | | |
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