| Re: Help with soft spots on a solcat 18
[Re: Berny]
#81523 08/02/06 06:20 AM 08/02/06 06:20 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I'm pretty sure they're solid fiberglass construction (without a foam core) - just like the Nacra 5.2's of that era.
Repair is not going to be terribly easy but it can be done (anything can be done with fiberglass). I'm pretty sure the deck is similar to the hobie 16 style - that it is a solid piece that has a lip that slides down over the hull. If the soft spots are large and wide, you are going to have to get large scale access to the inside of the boat...that means either cutting large access holes in the decks to be repaired later or removing the deck entirely.
You would then glass in reinforcements and/or horizontal stringers to beef up the aging fiberglass from the inside. This is not an easy (or terribly inexpensive) task. I'm sorry to say that you would probably be better of searching for a newer boat that you could reuse most of your gear on.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: Help with soft spots on a solcat 18
[Re: Jake]
#81524 08/02/06 08:42 AM 08/02/06 08:42 AM |
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Posts: 393 Syracuse,N.Y | Try reading this: http://www.hobiecat.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=1156If the hulls are foam core with a layer of glass on each side this method will work. When drilling, you are only going through the top layer of glass to get to the foam. The Git Rot method will epoxy the sandwich back together and the strength will return.
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[Re: The_flying_frog]
#81526 08/02/06 09:37 AM 08/02/06 09:37 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Before we get into that...where exactly did you drill holes and not find a foam core?
(We still need someone that knows Solcats to chime in here about the exact hull construction)
Jake Kohl | | | Re: Help with soft spots on a solcat 18
[Re: The_flying_frog]
#81529 08/02/06 11:57 AM 08/02/06 11:57 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | You have one of two different kinds of hull construction. I know that the early Nacra catamarans were solid fiberglass and the hulls and deck were probably about 1/8" to 3/16" thick with just fiberglass and resin (probably thicker in areas like cross beam mounts). The other type of construction, very common in all the Hobies and all post mid-80's catamarans, is "foam core" construction. This has a thin inner layer of fiberglass (probably 1/8" or less), an internal foam core (usually tapered at the edges of the piece but up to 3/8" thick), and then an outer fiberglass layer usually around 1/8" thick or so.
the instructions you got for repairing it "Hobie style" is to repair a soft spot that results from the foam "delaminating" (aka breaking away or crumbling) from either the external or internal fiberglass layer or both. To repair this you drill several holes in the soft spot, twist something around to futher break up the foam inside the area, and then fill it with epoxy or polyester resin to re-fill the middle to reconnect the inner and outer fiberglass layers.
What I suspect you have (again, unconfirmed) based on your drilling experience, is that you have a solid fiberglass construction. Soft spots in this case would mean that the resin and fibers have weakened over time (absorbing moisture, repeatitive stress, etc.) or that some internal reinforcment has broken away from the hull. You will need to either reinforce the areas in which the laminate has weakened or repair/replace the internal reinforcement that has been damaged (bulkheads or stringers). This kind of repair is going to involve cutting large holes in the deck, reinforcing the area, then fiberglassing the large cutouts you made back in place.
Bottom line though, is that we need to figure out for sure what kind of construction you are dealing with. It could be that the foam is so far gone that you thought you went through to the inside of the boat when you have just gone through the first layer...dunno. Could you see light from the inside through the holes you drilled?
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