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#89551 11/15/06 03:22 PM 11/15/06 03:22 PM |
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Posts: 5,582 “an island in the Pacifi... | So which is the better investment, property on the beach or property in the mountains? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Other than SF Bay getting larger and Florida and Louisiana disappearing everything remains pretty much status quo. I'm looking forward to my home on the hillside getting some beach front. The only downside is the boards hanging up on the condo below us. US Sail Level 2 Instructor US Sail Level 3 Coach | | | Re: Global warming
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#89552 11/15/06 03:35 PM 11/15/06 03:35 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Jake,
Are we taking into account the "Lay of the land" as it were.
For example, one of our lakes here in NM was sooooo low, (reported 80') Now, this summer, there was enough rain in the area, to cause a 20' rise over 3 weeks, now my guess is that if we have the same amount of water flow (in and out) it would take an ever increasing amount of time (there for water) to completely fill the lake. Islands dissappear and such.
As the water rises, flows past mountains and hills and into valleys.
Humm, I don't follow you - the melting doesn't have anything to do with rain and is simply a function of the volume of water contained in the ice that melts and contributes to the oceans.
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#89554 11/15/06 03:50 PM 11/15/06 03:50 PM |
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Posts: 1,187 38.912, -95.37 | If you're in to reading about the "human induced climate change", fka global warming, this guy says worst case is seven meters rise. Something to do with land masses rising when glaciers melt. lightblueline
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#89555 11/15/06 03:52 PM 11/15/06 03:52 PM |
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Posts: 321 Albuquerque NM | Jake,
Are we taking into account the "Lay of the land" as it were.
For example, one of our lakes here in NM was sooooo low, (reported 80') Now, this summer, there was enough rain in the area, to cause a 20' rise over 3 weeks, now my guess is that if we have the same amount of water flow (in and out) it would take an ever increasing amount of time (there for water) to completely fill the lake. Islands dissappear and such.
As the water rises, flows past mountains and hills and into valleys.
Humm, I don't follow you - the melting doesn't have anything to do with rain and is simply a function of the volume of water contained in the ice that melts and contributes to the oceans. Correct, but as the water levels rise weather it be from melting ice or rain fall, the change of the shorelines will cause a need for more and more water to cause a rise in water level. Does that make sence? More surface area, more water per inch in rise.
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#89556 11/15/06 04:43 PM 11/15/06 04:43 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Jake,
Are we taking into account the "Lay of the land" as it were.
For example, one of our lakes here in NM was sooooo low, (reported 80') Now, this summer, there was enough rain in the area, to cause a 20' rise over 3 weeks, now my guess is that if we have the same amount of water flow (in and out) it would take an ever increasing amount of time (there for water) to completely fill the lake. Islands dissappear and such.
As the water rises, flows past mountains and hills and into valleys.
Humm, I don't follow you - the melting doesn't have anything to do with rain and is simply a function of the volume of water contained in the ice that melts and contributes to the oceans. Correct, but as the water levels rise weather it be from melting ice or rain fall, the change of the shorelines will cause a need for more and more water to cause a rise in water level. Does that make sence? More surface area, more water per inch in rise. Yeah ... but geeesh...I only had a few minutes to contribute and I refuse to pull out my calculus books. Even then, you're probably talking about, at most, a 5% difference in the result (for which the amount of error is likely already more than that) since the oceans already consume 71% of the earth's surface.
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#89557 11/15/06 04:52 PM 11/15/06 04:52 PM |
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Posts: 1,383 Kingston SE South Australia | It must be global warming, weve just had our strangest weather for 40 years which is a relevant time to study the weather patterns considering the worlds only been made for millions of years. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#89558 11/15/06 05:04 PM 11/15/06 05:04 PM |
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Posts: 321 Albuquerque NM | Jake,
Are we taking into account the "Lay of the land" as it were.
For example, one of our lakes here in NM was sooooo low, (reported 80') Now, this summer, there was enough rain in the area, to cause a 20' rise over 3 weeks, now my guess is that if we have the same amount of water flow (in and out) it would take an ever increasing amount of time (there for water) to completely fill the lake. Islands dissappear and such.
As the water rises, flows past mountains and hills and into valleys.
Humm, I don't follow you - the melting doesn't have anything to do with rain and is simply a function of the volume of water contained in the ice that melts and contributes to the oceans. Correct, but as the water levels rise weather it be from melting ice or rain fall, the change of the shorelines will cause a need for more and more water to cause a rise in water level. Does that make sence? More surface area, more water per inch in rise. Yeah ... but geeesh...I only had a few minutes to contribute and I refuse to pull out my calculus books. Even then, you're probably talking about, at most, a 5% difference in the result (for which the amount of error is likely already more than that) since the oceans already consume 71% of the earth's surface. Geeeshhh Jake, get on the ball here. I would like to see your work. Include all terain (again spelling). You have untill 5:00 PM Friday. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#89561 11/15/06 07:07 PM 11/15/06 07:07 PM |
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Posts: 305 toronto, canada | right, so we get global warming. the polar ice caps melt and what happens? we get more sailing area. more water and a longer season. whats wrong with that? remember, the earth is 70% race course Somebody's watched "Waterworld" one too many times!! only once and only for the boat. | | | Re: Global warming
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#89563 11/15/06 07:11 PM 11/15/06 07:11 PM |
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Posts: 110 Northern California, USA | right, so we get global warming. the polar ice caps melt and what happens? we get more sailing area. more water and a longer season. whats wrong with that? remember, the earth is 70% race course Somebody's watched "Waterworld" one too many times!! only once and only for the boat. BSEG, I've watched it more times than I care to admit, and only because of the boat!!! I Want that boat!!!!!!
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#89564 11/15/06 08:19 PM 11/15/06 08:19 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Geeeshhh Jake, get on the ball here. I would like to see your work. Include all terain (again spelling). You have untill 5:00 PM Friday. Right on.... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#89565 11/15/06 09:08 PM 11/15/06 09:08 PM |
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Posts: 5,582 “an island in the Pacifi... | Somebody's watched "Waterworld" one too many times!!
only once and only for the boat. BSEG, I've watched it more times than I care to admit, and only because of the boat!!! I Want that boat!!!!!! You guys need to get out more often. What about Jean Tripplehorn? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> US Sail Level 2 Instructor US Sail Level 3 Coach | | | Re: Global warming
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#89567 11/16/06 02:35 AM 11/16/06 02:35 AM |
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 110 Northern California, USA RyanMcHale
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Posts: 110 Northern California, USA | Somebody's watched "Waterworld" one too many times!!
only once and only for the boat. BSEG, I've watched it more times than I care to admit, and only because of the boat!!! I Want that boat!!!!!! You guys need to get out more often. What about Jean Tripplehorn? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> Well, Yeah, but of course I thought she was part of the Standard Equipment on the boat!!!!!!!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#89568 11/16/06 07:03 AM 11/16/06 07:03 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 975 South Louisiana, USA Clayton
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Posts: 975 South Louisiana, USA | So which is the better investment, property on the beach or property in the mountains? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Other than SF Bay getting larger and Florida and Louisiana disappearing everything remains pretty much status quo. Probably the lower 1/2 of Louisiana would go and leave the upper section... wait, hmmmm well thats why I have a boat right? Clayton (South Louisiana) | | | Re: Global warming
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#89569 11/16/06 11:27 AM 11/16/06 11:27 AM |
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Posts: 10 | you'll be able to buy land in Fourchon dirt cheap...
and I wish Waterworld was a series.
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#89570 11/17/06 08:08 AM 11/17/06 08:08 AM |
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Posts: 1,226 Atlanta | Take a glass full of ice cubes and top it to the very brim with water, let the ice melt and measure how much water has spilt over the side. Hang on a minute there hasn't been a drop spilt infact the level went down slightly. Now if all the ice bergs in the world melted would we have the same effect. Answers please A big part of the polar ice pack is on land. When (if) it melts the ocean will rise. Scientist are saying anything between 3ft and 300ft over the next 10 to 100 years. If it ALL melts its equal to 300 ft in ocean rise. If you keep track of the research, some of the ice pack is melting at an alarming rate and f***ing up penguins and polar bears. Some of it is actually increasing. So, what this tells me is that its more about weather change, not just gettting warmer, some places get warmer, some get colder. The 300ft thing is pretty scary if you believe it. Bill | | |
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