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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: warbird] #92929
12/20/06 07:56 PM
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I have never done this but I could punch myself in the nuts for taking this thread seriously.

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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Robi] #92930
12/20/06 08:08 PM
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My biggest peeve is hearing tactical things that really have no meat. For instance: sailing upwind from A mark with a closed start line while driving and being focused on the sails in some lightish breeze, I ask "how are we doing with the start line?" and get a response similar to "uuuuuummmm....we look probably OK" - that'll get me going.


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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Jake] #92931
12/20/06 08:11 PM
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My biggest peeve is hearing tactical things that really have no meat. For instance: sailing upwind from A mark with a closed start line while driving and being focused on the sails in some lightish breeze, I ask "how are we doing with the start line?" and get a response similar to "uuuuuummmm....we look probably OK" - that'll get me going.

does "I think we're ok" annoy you too? It is something I would say I suppose.

Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: PTP] #92932
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Jake wants; "We are 10 seconds below the line... a gap is opening below us," or "We are three boatlengths below the line, JW has us closed out - start ducking." He can't help it - as an engineer, he needs quantified data, not subjective opinion.

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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: John Williams] #92933
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Jake wants; "We are 10 seconds below the line... a gap is opening below us," or "We are three boatlengths below the line, JW has us closed out - start ducking." He can't help it - as an engineer, he needs quantified data, not subjective opinion.

Cuh-RACK that whip! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


So, if he asked me that question and I replied "WTF do I KNOW, you're the one driving!" I would get thrown off the boat???? Guess that would be legit <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: John Williams] #92934
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But that starting LINE is an actual line or is it a rope? LMAO!

Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: warbird] #92935
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Whaqt part of WASHING LINE do you not understand?

What IS a washing line? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> A piece of rope that you beat your clothes with on the rocks in the stream?

Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: John Williams] #92936
12/20/06 09:33 PM
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Jake wants; "We are 10 seconds below the line... a gap is opening below us," or "We are three boatlengths below the line, JW has us closed out - start ducking." He can't help it - as an engineer, he needs quantified data, not subjective opinion.

Cuh-RACK that whip! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


Exactly. I want, "AT THIS POINT, WE'RE CLEAR OF THE LINE BY ABOUT 4 BOAT LENGTHS TO THE LEFT OF IT."

Then a follow up with a summary of the course would be great. Something like this; "JC AND KENNY CONTINUED GOING RIGHT AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE EATING A BIG HEADER AND SAILING INTO A HOLE. THE REST OF THE FLEET IS FOLLOWING US AND WE'VE GOT A BIG FAT PUFF COMING ON THE LEFT THAT APPEARS TO BE A HUGE LIFT."

Otherwise I'm going to proceed with implementing the plan to attach the tiller extension with a quick release pin so it can quickly serve as a 'whack-it' stick. As Dave Perry says in Winning in one designs (I left it at work so I can't quote directly), such pointless information deserves a boom to the teeth.

Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: PTP] #92937
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I would get thrown off the boat????


Might as well since you're apparently just going to hang out on the trapeze whistlin' dixie all day. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Robi] #92938
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Its a good trick to ask a person how many ropes a boat would carry. give an example of a yacht they would know. They then take a guess at a certain number. but the real answer is one or none. the only rope a boat ever would carry is a bellrope.

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I am bored at work, with not much to do. Do you have any specific pet peeves?

Me - well it drives me insane crazy when people call a LINE as a rope!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />GRRRTT! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
It is not a rope! Its a freaking line! a rope is a line on a spool on display in the store, not doing anything, just sitting there! That is a rope. Once a piece of that rope is cut off, for any particular reason, that section of the rope is now a line. It has a reason to be, a reason to measure xx of inches/feet/millimeters/meters WHATEVER!

DO NOT CALL A LINE A ROPE! that is a capital SIN! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: hobie1616] #92939
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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Robi] #92940
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My pet peeve is boaters who do not know how to tie basic knots or even do a cleat hitch properly. Some people who don't know how to tie a knot correctly make up for it by just tying a lot of them. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

And it is amazing the number of powerboaters who do not know how to tie their boat up to a dock -- and don't even have enough line aboard to do it properly and have never heard of spring lines and breast lines. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

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Also, I am surprised that nobody has yet mentioned a primary pet peeve of sailors: Personal Watercraft!

Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Robi] #92941
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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Mary] #92942
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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Jake] #92943
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I hate crews who shout "Water at the Mark" but there is no such rule. This phrase is used alot in the UK where an inside boat has gained an overlap coming into a Mark of the course. I just wish they would keep in line with the proper terminology.


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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Mary] #92944
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Let's see, I'm feeling grumpy today so here's one or two:

SOs who change their participation/toleration of the sport once a relationship is cemented with a ring.

People who claim to want to know how to sail, then start making fun of and complaining about the fact that there are different names for everything including the whole port/starboard thing, and continue on that theme even after it's demonstrated that if you can't refer to something quickly without ambiguity somebody could get hurt or your results will suffer.

People that insist on having inane, drunken, giggly, and generally stupid drawn-on conversations on any channel on the VHF. On the same thing, anybody on a boat that allows somebody else on that boat to do that. Usually by the drunken girlfriends of owners of penis boats doing 85-100 mph on the way to the next dock bar, but I've heard sailors just as guilty. They even seem to get upset when somebody uses the channel for something useful while they're chatting.

The general state of the boat stores available - Typically you must visit just about every store in the area to get what you need for a project, and I'm not talking about hard to find stuff. A lot of the stores are focusing more on clothing than the actual things boats need. We need an APS that also caters to larger boats...

Jet-skis - I really can't complain here, because, well, I don't know if I should really admit this, but, ok, here it is - I own one.... Actually, truth be known, in our little corner of the sailing world (Galesville, MD), the jet skiers are generally a well behaved lot that don't bother us. The real stinking eeedeeeooots are the nut jobs in the large semi-displacement power boats that seem to forget that the throttle can be used to avoid situations (as in slow down and let traffic pass). These guys have been the ones passing too close to smaller boats (sail and power) throwing up a wall-of-water wake for us to slam into after we spent the previous couple of minutes debating evasive maneuvers and whether we needed to dive off the boat before impact. They seem to think that just because they can afford that brand new Tsunami-53 with auto-leveling swim platform that the intellect to operate it responsibly came as one of the options along with the full wet bar and happy ending masseuse.

Phew. Glad I got that off my chest....

Oh, wait, I have another one - the people that shipped my set of Brownell boat stands for the F-27. After the shipping charges had already been paid for in the original bill, they decided to tack on an additional "lift gate" fee more than a month later and proceed to bill mercilessly for it. I understand the lift gate fee, but not mentioning it when it was incurred and after the shipping was already paid... So, shipping companies shipping shippables for ships are on my list. Shipheads.

Ok, I'm done...

Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Jake] #92945
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For instance: sailing upwind from A mark ...


Hmmm....sailing UPWIND from the A mark?

Just where are you headed, the distant horizon? I guess the crew SHOULD point out that it's time to tack soon.

Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Mary] #92946
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Derelict (sp?) or otherwise unused boats taking up valuable space at waterfront and mast-up storage locations while others sit patiently on a waiting list.


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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: ksurfer2] #92947
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Derelict (sp?) or otherwise unused boats taking up valuable space at waterfront and mast-up storage locations while others sit patiently on a waiting list.

Amen!

Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: ksurfer2] #92948
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Derelict (sp?) or otherwise unused boats taking up valuable space at waterfront and mast-up storage locations while others sit patiently on a waiting list.


Here in the UK we traditionally have bonfire night on November the 5th. In the past boats that are abandoned usually go on the sailing clubs bonfire to make way for new more active members. This was easy with wooden boats and an angle grinder works fine for GRP boats. That said we have our bonfire on the beach and with the strong prevailing south westerly winds we have I am sure the fire gets up to a temperature that could easily deal with the aluminium masts and beams of a cat.

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