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Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: John Williams] #93102
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Two words....Coors Light.


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Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: Jake] #93103
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Two words....Coors Light.

That's worse than Bear Whiz Beer.

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Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: NCSUtrey] #93104
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You don't have time to go to races, but you are retired and post on catsailor all day? Something smells fishy... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I'll see you at Tradewinds, Tiki, where I'll introduce you to Key Sailing Drinks (and yes, Drink is capitalized!)


Actually, I do work occassionally. But it isn't something I make a habit of. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

ALL those regattas together require too much travel. In aggregate, it would be a significant expense and a huge block of time.

Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: RickWhite] #93105
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Rick are prindles and hobie 16's racing together then this year?

Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: BobG] #93106
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Don't recall every doing that in the past. Usually there are very few Prindles.., and H16s usually have a class.
Rick

PS: We could probably score all the boats and fleet on time, but with so many boats that is a huge undertaking for the RC and scorekeeperRick


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Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: arbo06] #93107
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NAMSA?


North American Multihull Sailing Association. Seems like some open events sailed out of Fort Picken's gate in Pensacola Beach in the early/mid-80's (seem to remember a WOWW 107.7 regattta tshirt). All one start, all scored together on handicap. Tradewinds carries the title NAMSA NA's still.

Rick, anything more we need to know about NAMSA? What does it do? Why does it do?


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Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: tshan] #93108
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My brain must be pretty addled, but I'm the idiot who volunteered to be the scorer for Tradewinds. And I say bring it on. If you wanna see everybody scored on elapsed time so be it. Let the RC take all the times. I think sailwave can handle it. Just be sure somebody is on hand to check me into an appropriate facility after all is said and done.

Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: barbshort] #93109
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My brain must be pretty addled


Starting on the *eggnog* a bit early! Your brain should be properly "addled" by Jan 13 <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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My brain must be pretty addled, but I'm the idiot who volunteered to be the scorer for Tradewinds. And I say bring it on. If you wanna see everybody scored on elapsed time so be it. Let the RC take all the times. I think sailwave can handle it. Just be sure somebody is on hand to check me into an appropriate facility after all is said and done.


Wow! You're tougher than I am! I was thinking of a little more lead time. . . a LOT more lead time!

Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: barbshort] #93111
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The problem is not so much in the scoring.., as Barb mentions that Sailwave can handle it.
However, can the folks on the RC boat handle getting all those times?
I can tell you it is a chore just getting sail numbers when 10 boats cross the line very close together. Throw in the capturing of the time and it can be chaotic.
As it has been in the past, when we see a boat flying a banner we get the time, and the balance we get the sail number.

If we had ten people on the Signal Boat it might be easier, but we usually are only two or three.
Rick


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Doesn't matter to me as long as the outer course is lengthy. You might want to consider 2 finish lines. One for the slower boats and one for spin boats. The closure rate and close proximity of boats worries me with one finish line.

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Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: RickWhite] #93113
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The problem is not so much in the scoring.., as Barb mentions that Sailwave can handle it.
However, can the folks on the RC boat handle getting all those times?
I can tell you it is a chore just getting sail numbers when 10 boats cross the line very close together. Throw in the capturing of the time and it can be chaotic.
As it has been in the past, when we see a boat flying a banner we get the time, and the balance we get the sail number.

If we had ten people on the Signal Boat it might be easier, but we usually are only two or three.
Rick


Rick, do you use Video and talk back ?

Guys who run our Cat open (200 boats, 2 courses) use video on the start and finish line and so they can get the finishing order when it's tight and work out the time from the video. Was invaluabe last time when at one stage about 30 boats finished within a minute or 2.


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Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: scooby_simon] #93114
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In our races we use the mobile phone or or mariphone (english ?).

Pretty much we have a guy on the beach behind a table with pen and paper and special clock. Everytime he hits a button the current time is printed. He only writes down the sailnumbers in the sequence of the finishes. We have a special casio lap timer for that but there are computer programs available that do it also I believe.

Pretty much we have two people in the RC boat, calling out the sailnumbers in the order that they come in. This all works pretty well and easily. Even a single person could do it that way.

The results are available right after the baots have derigged.

I know of RC's who have used a small memo tape recorded to dictate the sailnumbers and times to.

It is not really that diffficult to find something that works for you.

Wouter

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Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: Wouter] #93115
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Pretty much we have a guy on the beach behind a table with pen and paper and special clock. Everytime he hits a button the current time is printed.


Interesting. What is this "special clock" called and where do you get it? What does it do, print out a little ticker tape like you get from the supermarket?

Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: Mary] #93116
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I know it was made by casio. It can't remember the type and I'm not sure if they are still produced. But I can find out if you want. This guy is only a phone call away.

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What does it do, print out a little ticker tape like you get from the supermarket?



Exactly. And you can even write on this printout if you want. But it is easier to have a seperate paper and just correlated that with the number of the individual time measurement.

I think casio sold this thing to record lap times or finish times for things like track events.

Most of these have been replaced by computer systems I think.

It really just look like a miniture version of those old office calculator machines with a paper printout.


Wouter

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Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: Wouter] #93117
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In our races we use the mobile phone or mariphone (english ?).Wouter


mariphone=VHF

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Re: National "Open" Champsionship [Re: Mary] #93118
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Track Clubs use them for scoring large road races as well. Someone just taps a button every time a number or runner is called out and they merge them up somewhere/somehow. I think they corral the runners in order and take "tags" off their race numbers. It is fallible, but most things are.

Very large road races use chips attached to the runner's ankles/shoes. Each chip is assigned to a runner and proximity readers captures the time and race number associated. Interesting thought. May be tough to make a "perfect" finish line on bouncing boats, etc.


Tom
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