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New mast plug #99334
02/19/07 10:30 PM
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After getting water in my mast yet again, I decided to redo the mast plug...with style...

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Eric Poulsen
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Re: New mast plug [Re: ejpoulsen] #99335
02/20/07 12:16 AM
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Thats very cool and original!

Re: New mast plug [Re: ejpoulsen] #99336
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Nice job, very pretty. Paul take note, less tape more clear silicone.


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Re: New mast plug [Re: ejpoulsen] #99337
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Are you sure that the top of the mast is leaking and not the upper diamond T-terminal tangs holes ?

Wouter


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The Netherlands
Re: New mast plug [Re: ejpoulsen] #99338
02/20/07 04:51 AM
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Now that's smart. How did you do it?

Paul

Re: New mast plug [Re: Wouter] #99339
02/20/07 01:43 PM
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Are you sure that the top of the mast is leaking and not the upper diamond T-terminal tangs holes ?

Wouter


Only the tip of the mast was in the water--not even close to the diamonds where they enter the mast; also, when I took my mast down, John D (Blade sailor in SoCal) noticed water dripping out of the top.


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Central California
Re: New mast plug [Re: pdwarren] #99340
02/20/07 01:45 PM
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Now that's smart. How did you do it?

Paul


I just printed out the logo, trimmed it and glued it to the foam before covering with silicone.


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Central California
Re: New mast plug [Re: ejpoulsen] #99341
02/20/07 09:29 PM
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Nice repair Eric, and thanks for the demonstration of how to get and keep an F16 moving. This weekend SCYA series was a good learning experience for me. Sailed the Blade in 15-20kts wind, capsized, got it back up without assistance (except for the wind), and learned what the spinnaker pole does when subjected to a sudden heavy download. The download was caused when I stepped off the bow into much deeper water than I thought and grabbed the pole for support. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> At least the racing was over for the weekend when it happened. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Re: New mast plug [Re: JJD] #99342
02/20/07 10:18 PM
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JJD,

Great sailing with you--great venue and facility; a little weird sailing with the Tempests, though. Look forward to our next sail.


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Re: New mast plug [Re: JJD] #99343
02/21/07 08:16 AM
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The download was caused when I stepped off the bow into much deeper water than I thought and grabbed the pole for support. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> At least the racing was over for the weekend when it happened. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


I take it you bent or snapped the spi' pole?


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Re: New mast plug [Re: tback] #99344
02/22/07 10:05 AM
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Snapped it.
I'm digging around locally to see what I can come up with as a suitable replacement. Supplied Blade spinnker pole is 1.5" OD X .065 Wall Al tubing.


Re-posting previous thread on tubing [Re: JJD] #99345
02/22/07 10:25 AM
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Here is a previous post talking about various aluminum tubing for beams, booms and poles.

F16 Thread on tubing


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Re: Re-posting previous thread on tubing [Re: tback] #99346
02/22/07 11:34 AM
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How about using a Windsurfer mast, or does it have to be aluminium?


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Re: New mast plug [Re: JJD] #99347
02/22/07 09:55 PM
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Try a Sunfish spar. If you live near a Sunfish fleet, find a Sunfish junkie and have them dig up a broken spar. They break at the 11 foot mark. I think they are exactly the dimensions you need. Even new they are only $80.

Re: Re-posting previous thread on tubing [Re: Timbo] #99348
02/22/07 10:15 PM
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How about using a Windsurfer mast, or does it have to be aluminium?

I think a windsurfer mast would be much more durable than the aluminum.

Re: New mast plug [Re: David Parker] #99349
02/22/07 11:29 PM
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Try a Sunfish spar. If you live near a Sunfish fleet, find a Sunfish junkie and have them dig up a broken spar. They break at the 11 foot mark. I think they are exactly the dimensions you need. Even new they are only $80.
Ahm negative, a F16 spin pole specially with the newer cut spinnakers you want max spin pole length which is 12ft.

Re: Re-posting previous thread on tubing [Re: Timbo] #99350
02/23/07 02:59 AM
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Hi all,

carbon windsurfer mast the only way to go, as found on "Altered". Cheap when second hand, light and strong <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />.

Regards Gary. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: New mast plug [Re: JJD] #99351
02/23/07 04:48 AM
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1.5 x 0.065 inch = 38 mm x 1.65 mm alu tube.

Now I understand why you guys in the US are bending and snapping the poles so much more often then the other F16 sailors in the world. I think the standard elsewhere is 40x2 mm spi poles = 35% stiffer and stronger. However your US poles are lighter, so it is a "win-some, loose-some" trade-off.

Wouter


Wouter Hijink
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Re: New mast plug [Re: Wouter] #99352
02/23/07 11:15 AM
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Whats the percentage weight difference? or to put it another way do you wear a 2-3mm or 4-5mm wetsuit. In other words don't worry about a few grams just go for a reliable pole which doesn't snap. If you are that concerned about weight do as the Stealths do and go for Wouters favourite material CARBON FIBRE <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: New mast plug [Re: Robi] #99353
02/23/07 05:28 PM
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Ahm negative, a F16 spin pole specially with the newer cut spinnakers you want max spin pole length which is 12ft.


Class rules say 3500 mm or 11'6". Sunfish spar is 14 whole, breaks at 11-12 feet, usually from abrasion/corrosion at the gooseneck. Here's one in use...

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