| Re: politics, petroleum and climate
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Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL waterbug_wpb
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Tim, you wouldn't have to INCREASE the tax on fuel, just drop the subsidies given by the gub-ment to the fuel producers. This will boost the at-pump price to about $3.75 per US Gal (87 octane) and about $4.00 for 93 octane.
But cut subsidies? Someone already mentioned hell freezing over....
And with the destruction of FL citrus, (canker and the new one, greening) expect juice prices to get higher because the stores think they can pull it off... Nurseries should replant the citrus, as its good for reducing CO2, improving groundwater, habitat for wildlife, and better than development (which is where most of it is ending up).
Agriculture is the oldest industry (Adam tended to the garden before Eve even showed up - but that's another discussion), and is critically dependent on environmental stewardship for its very existence. So, in effect, farmers were the first environmentalists.
I agree that we're not windy enough to successfully run wind farms, but we should look forward to a blended approach (coal, petrol, gas, solar, nuke, etc.) to lower dependence on any one fuel source, as well as increase dependability
Are you saying that even if solar panels are "the right thing to do" you won't put them up because no one is giving you a discount? Is it "right" only when it's cheap?
What about hydro-generators that work off the Gulf Stream? What is that, about a 4 kt average current?
Jay
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