| Re: politics, petroleum and climate
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#101583 03/26/07 11:53 AM 03/26/07 11:53 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Tim, that's "MAJOR STANK", thank you very much <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I think that going off-grid will never be economically feasable, because of the huge economy of scale the power company is using. It is, by far, the cheapest source of power for the resident.
I also think the power companies are working to be the most efficient (in cost and production), as that leads to greater profit.
So, it ends up back in the consumer's lap. Reduce consumption and everyone benefits - you pay less, and the power company generates less waste.
LED lights instead of incandescent. Better home insulation. Heat pumps, etc.
Having the ability to be off-grid works for us in the hurricane belt, because we may end up off-grid for a while if a storm hits.
Some of us have lived off-grid, and I would say that of those that have, their lifestyles adjusted to be more efficient, and demand less energy.
What happened once we returned to the grid? Consumption (and waste) increased. What happened?
Jay
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