Note that you are now the one to hang out the dirty landry in public view !


I will say this in reply.

I'm required to state in posts like the one above that I'm not longer recognized as a factor in the F16 class by any class official or official class body. In fact, it seems a trend that somebody adds this fact to the public record any time I make a critical post here or on some other forum.

It is no secret that there are differences between myself and the current leadership of the F16 class and how the rules are intepreted. That is a given and everybody knows it. No point in being secretive about it.

If I'm acting like anything then I'm acting like a F16 class founder and former class chairman.

It was in my tenure that the F16 class rules were envisioned, drafted, revised, refined, completed and accepted. Additionally, during the same tenureship the class was created and grown to a size where it could stand on its own feet. That is the background from which I'm coming and commenting.





I don't think it to be very wise to vent private dealings here out in the open. In fact it makes you appear rather vindictive as none of this has any real bearing to the wording of the class rules or the well documented seperation between myself and the current class leadership as written down in my earlier posting. I mean, it is public knowlegde that I pay for this stuff and have done so ever since the beginning.

Sadly, the path of public exposure has now been taken and I see no reason anymore to consider myself bound in this respect.

What the GC offered me can be summerized as handing over the last remaining property rights I held as a founder of this class and its main facilitator of the first 6 years. FREE OF CHARGE that is ! And then pay for my class membership. For some reason they felt entitled to "demand" that I write off a good chunk of money I've invested in securing these resources over the last 8 years without any path of me recouperating (even a part) of my investments later by selling for example www.formula16.com to the highest bidder. Maybe if the leadership had said please I would have considered it.

Instead I offered the class complete use of the last items I held in ownership, free of charge, were I (by default) also continued to pay for continuation in the coming years if they would grant me a F16 class membership. Note here, that these annual expenses in order to continue to safe guard these resources is a couple of times HIGHER then the membership fee. In fact it would mean that I would keep sponsoring the Class budget in excess to what normal class members do. Call me stupid but I think this comprises something that would be called a "very sweet deal".

That counter offer was not good enough apparently.

In private conversations made in passing, I think to Marcus, I had once mentioned that I would consider selling the last items that I held in ownership. A request from the GC came by informal channels for my price, I named it and ... ... ... that was pretty much the last I ever heard of it.

The amount I had quoted was pretty much the amount I had payed over the years for the URL's ownerships alone; I just decided to forget about all the other expenses that were incurred over time. We are not talking about any large amounts here. I'll be lucky to buy a new jib for the amount that I quoted.

So I guess any offer "to to pay for the URLs IN FULL" was lost in the mail somewhere John.

In the mean time I have paid for another year of continuation and allow the class to continue to use these resources as if they own them. I think no-one can claim that I'm not acting on good faith and in the interest of the class by doing so.



The selling offer still stand as far as I'm concerned as well as the usage offer (= I pay for the resources and keep ownership while you guys use it as you see fit for the benefit of the class and also reward me with a class membership).

At this time, it is the current leadership of the class that has to make a choice for either one. There won't be another deal as I'm indeed not entertaining any more BS since I'm in dubio whether the past "negociations" have been a waste of time already.

From my perspective it appears that the GC is simply too proud to choose either way, in fact choosing to ignore the situation altogether. I haven't heard from the GC over the past 6 weeks and I have never received any reply since I've send in my selling offer. That is the reason why nothing has happened since then. Or as you word it "Wouter chose for reasons best known to himself"


Other then that I don't care whether you ignore me or not.

That is all,

Wouter