Originally Posted by hobie1616
Originally Posted by Wouter
People think that cars are fast but in my experience they only do 20 to 25 mph average speeds in urban area's. If you can approach that by peddling then the speed difference has gotten so small that there is plent of time for them to spot you and they actually have to stpe on the gas to overtake you.

Check this for urban riding. Drag Race NYC may be the best.


If the guys around here rode like that, there'd be no problem. That was excellent.

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